TForce | Bennies Old Bennies new, and the comparison to the union

[accelerator]

This thread is to first introduce all of the Overnite Employees to our UPSF bennies and compare to the old. Can anybody fill us in up north after all the mail system is a little slow in the north. So lets hear it.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[imported_Dreemer]

This thread is to first introduce all of the Overnite Employees to our UPSF bennies and compare to the old. Can anybody fill us in up north after all the mail system is a little slow in the north. So lets hear it.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

no news yet, but i like the new av

 

[imported_krash]

I guess I can give you a lil insight on UPS' union employee's

Current pay
Single's $26.27 hour 59.89 cents per mile
Double's $26.72 hour 61.21 cpm
>We recv a raise 08/01/06 and 08/01/07 of $.90 then $1.00

Vacation
1 yr= 1 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*
2 yr= 2 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*
10 yr= 3 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*
15 yr= 4 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*
20 yr= 5 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*
25 yr= 6 wk vac.+ 1 opt. wk*

Holiday's
8 holidays at 8 or 10 hours pay
Plus one personal holiday a year(must request 7 days in advance)
Recieve double time(plus your holiday pay) if you work one of the holidays

We recv full medical, dental, optical, death and dissability insurance for you and your entire family. No charge

We also have a retirement plan. No charge. Every region is diffrent. Some are better than the area I'm in.

We are paid for turn around, delays and breakdowns. Full hourly rate.

*Option week.
In the Southern Region Supplements you can take it one of 3 ways
1) 5 consecutive days of w/ 58 hours pay
2) No time off and recv 58 hours pay
3) 7 individual days off at 8 hours per day to be taken whenever you choose. You do not have to request in advance and they cannot prevent you nor descipline you for taken these on the spur of the moment.

That's all I can think of right now

 

[dvr49]

I'm very glad for you. That's why they work the hell out of you. I'm fine the way things are. So I'll vote NO if it comes down to it.

 

[hugnlug]

I'm very glad for you. That's why they work the hell out of you. I'm fine the way things are. So I'll vote NO if it comes down to it.

Step away from the beer. Do you honestly think things are going to stay just like they are? Apparently you have no clue what our new step daddy is up to. I worked for Brown years ago. I think it was easier then than it is now, because of the intergration of computers and technology. It has offically been a week and a half and already I see the noose at our barn tighten. Now like any barn in the trucking industry we have our slackers and good workers. UPSF is now in the process of weeding out the slackers at our barn. Something that should have been addressed years ago. But now it is up to the people who do give the company 100% daily to now give 110%. This is just the begining. So if you think that they aren't going to work the hell out of you, keep dreaming. What recoarse do you have? Refuse? Quit? Bribe? If they want me to act and perform as a UPSer then pay me like one. At least UPSF should have address the central core of benefit complaints, overtime, sickpay, delay pay, wages, etc. That is why many of us are now refusing to settle for less!! Why should we? This isn't some hayseed good ole boy company anymore.

 

[Skeeter]

Got my benefits packet today. So far I like it. So its looking like company man for me.

Sorry teamsters...

 

[Animo916]

Got my benefits packet today. So far I like it. So its looking like company man for me.

Sorry teamsters...

Keep drinking the company kool aid Skeeter, they can change anything they want, at any time, with no recourse, and no rebuttle from loyal people like you. Like I said before Skeeter, the first time they step on your toes you will be the fastest one to sign a card.

 

[theoriginalwebidiot]

skeeter just hope you are not the first upsfreight employee to be judged for a screw up by your peer group...sounds like you are use to the overnite favoritism the company manual talks about....

 

[hugnlug]

I understand that it would be nice too get ole skeet and others to understand. Some will and some won't. Webidiot, you are 100% correct in your assumptions. The best cure for whatever ales you is "trial by fire." Let them get a dose of reality. Because reality isn't what they think!! Let the beatings begin and continue until morale picks up.
:Poke:

 

[imported_Silverhawk1]

Keep drinking the company kool aid Skeeter, they can change anything they want, at any time, with no recourse, and no rebuttle from loyal people like you. Like I said before Skeeter, the first time they step on your toes you will be the fastest one to sign a card.

I'm amazed at how you turn a mans opinion into drinking company cool aid. And then you can read a mans mind and tell him how if his toes get stepped on that he will go running to the union.... simply amazing! You act like we don't have any rights because we are non-union. That is BS.. There is life without the union. A very prosperous one. I have been doing it for almost 21 years now. I too will be voting "NO" to the union...

 

[Skeeter]

I'm amazed at how you turn a mans opinion into drinking company cool aid. And then you can read a mans mind and tell him how if his toes get stepped on that he will go running to the union.... simply amazing! You act like we don't have any rights because we are non-union. That is BS.. There is life without the union. A very prosperous one. I have been doing it for almost 21 years now. I too will be voting "NO" to the union...

I know Silverhawk I laugh and just let them rattle on. That is part of the old scare tactics. If you get along with management or do your job you are a kiss xxx.

What did one say trail by fire. Over the past 24 years I have had many. You know what I got through it without the teamsters.

 

[theoriginalwebidiot]

Skeeter, you have never worked for ups and make no mistake it will be run by and for ups without any input from you or any other employee.

 

[imported_krash]

I'm very glad for you. That's why they work the hell out of you. I'm fine the way things are. So I'll vote NO if it comes down to it.

Read the title of the thread, 49er

I was offering a "comparison"
I can give you a definition if it would help.
Also, they get a fair days work from me. Driving to and from. That International will only go so fast.

 

[stldude44]

Got my benefits packet today. So far I like it. So its looking like company man for me. Sorry teamsters...

Just curious.....what did you get that was so good? From what I've read some of you guys will pay almost $200.00 per month for insurance....is that a good deal?

 

[Greezy Trucker]

I'm very glad for you. That's why they work the hell out of you. I'm fine the way things are. So I'll vote NO if it comes down to it.

This is funny. A guy asks what the bennies are and here you come with your bad attitude. The man was just answering a question. Are you really that threatened that you can't even try to be peaceful? All this about the union causing problems but I you give off the feel that if we were trying to vote in the union you would be the bully running around threatening people. Besides this wasn't even a topic about the union.

 

[Animo916]

Got my benefits packet today. So far I like it. So its looking like company man for me.

Sorry teamsters...

So far you like it. What will happen when you get to something you don't like? Will you be able to change it so that it meets to your liking?

I'm amazed at how you turn a mans opinion into drinking company cool aid. And then you can read a mans mind and tell him how if his toes get stepped on that he will go running to the union.... simply amazing! You act like we don't have any rights because we are non-union. That is BS.. There is life without the union. A very prosperous one. I have been doing it for almost 21 years now. I too will be voting "NO" to the union...

Silverhawk1,
What you and Skeeter have experienced for your 20+ years was not UPS. Evidently, you have been able to cope with what Overnite has dealt to you, what you need to remember is Overnite is gone, kaput, CYA, Sionara. UPS runs the ship now, and as they have been known for years, runs the tightest ship in the industry. I didn't read anyone's mind just making an observation about human nature. Most people that feel they can fend for themselves are usually the first to seek help when they find they can no longer do it themselves.

I know Silverhawk I laugh and just let them rattle on. That is part of the old scare tactics. If you get along with management or do your job you are a kiss xxx.

Skeeter,
You can laugh all you want if you think this is a scare tactic. But tell me, if this is indeed a scare tactic, what do you call it when management locks you in a meeting, spreading lies and misinformation about the union with no one present from the union to deflate those lies? What do you call it when management threatens your job because of union interests? What do you call it when management decides to freeze or cut your salary or beneifts at the drop of a hat? What do you call it when management makes unreasonable or unsafe demands of you and your coworkers? So you see Skeeter, you can laugh all you want about something I may say, because I am laughing at the conditions that you seem to like to work under. And don't worry, When you do decide to jump on the horse, I will not be laughing at you then and I'll go one further, I won't even say I told you so!

What did one say trail by fire. Over the past 24 years I have had many. You know what I got through it without the teamsters.

I have alo had my share of trial by fire in my 19 years in LTL. In none of those situations, did I need the Teamsters to cover my back. However, like a good insurance policy, it is better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.

 

[wassesname]

i think this thread is about comparing the old benefits to the package we got in the mailbox. that means put on the blinders and dont even acknoledge that the union has the most to offer, with a better deal, out of the three to compare.

 

[Skeeter]

Skeeter,
You can laugh all you want if you think this is a scare tactic. But tell me, if this is indeed a scare tactic, what do you call it when management locks you in a meeting, spreading lies and misinformation about the union with no one present from the union to deflate those lies? What do you call it when management threatens your job because of union interests? What do you call it when management decides to freeze or cut your salary or beneifts at the drop of a hat? What do you call it when management makes unreasonable or unsafe demands of you and your coworkers? So you see Skeeter, you can laugh all you want about something I may say, because I am laughing at the conditions that you seem to like to work under. And don't worry, When you do decide to jump on the horse, I will not be laughing at you then and I'll go one further, I won't even say I told you so!

Same old tired rhetoric. In twenty-four years I've never had my job threatened because I always did my job and with pride I might add.

Never in twenty-four years has management behind closed doors spreading lies or plotting against me.

Never needed the union to fight for me I was always able to do it myself. Now they have labor boards and agencies to go to if people are scared going to work every day.

Never in twenty-four years has Overnite froze or cut wages or benefits even when it was hurt by the union's last and final feeble attempt to unionize it.

Never in twenty-four years have Overnite EVER made unsafe demands on me or any one I have ever worked with.

Yes, for the ump tine time this is not Overnite now. I AM giving them [UPSF] a chance. If it is true about the way management treats its employees and they change a lot of our management and I probably would go along with the majority if they feel it needs to be union.

But so far this has not been the case. I will not sit by and let pro union people say anything negative about Overnite that I believe not to be true.

Most {notice I didn't say all} that have a problem with Overnite probably got fired for just cause. Or had a reprimand for just cause. Now have a poor attitude toward the company. If you would be honest you know a lot of that is the case.

Was Overnite perfect NO! Is the union perfect NO! Is UPS perfect NO!

If it comes down to a vote that would mean enough people would have come dissatisfied and by then it would of been enough time for me also.

So cool your jets you may or may not get what you want. But you will have to accept it just like the rest of us.

MAJORITY RULES!

 

[Animo916]

Skeeter,

good answers, I'm glad you have been fortunate with your career at Overnite. If you don't mind, would you care to share with us, what it is that you liked so much about the new benefits/retirement package that you and your coworkers received? Most of us still seem to be in the dark, including some of your coworkers......example, what was it like in the past and how it's different now?

Thanks

 

[Skeeter]

Skeeter,

good answers, I'm glad you have been fortunate with your career at Overnite. If you don't mind, would you care to share with us, what it is that you liked so much about the new benefits/retirement package that you and your coworkers received? Most of us still seem to be in the dark, including some of your coworkers......example, what was it like in the past and how it's different now?

Thanks

You must talking about the $47.00 dollars or so its costing me a week. Well, No I don't like that. But I think what I get is pretty good.

Not going to go into all of it here. Don't have the time or energy. But if enough people don't care for it then it is their right to vote for the teamsters. Myself I'm waiting to see all the mistreatment we are going to be getting.