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maybe not, but the guy driving would get a letter.That monkey couldnt manage a one car funeral
maybe not, but the guy driving would get a letter.That monkey couldnt manage a one car funeral
supporting a no voteWith the way they are treating the senior driver's lately it would seem that Holland -YRCW wants all the Senior Guys gone by 2019 ,so they can't vote No and tell these new Driver's about the -15% and lost week's vacation and the good old days when we had a union to fight for us and had full pay & pension !! It is really sad when you tell these new guy's about the -15% & other that has gone on and they all say well nobody told me that in the job interview about pension fund going broke or -15% or lost weeks vacation time and from 9 hrs down to 8 hrs vac pay too !! But hang in there senior driver's and vote No and fight back in 2019 , this one we will have to fight for ourselves !!
There probably won't be a contract as we know it now. You will get a BS take it or leave it offer. Maybe a quarter raise and pay for your own insurance. And if nobody agrees to a BS contract the company will use brokers just like they do now only there will be so many of them no one including the Union will be able to stop them. Why do you think they started using brokers? No not because they can't hire anyone. It's because they don't want to hire anybody. If they paid a decent wage and give our vacation and pension back people would be lined up down the street wanting a job. The other thing is how they lie to new hires. Hire them as drivers and make them work the dock for 2 years bfore they can ever get in truck. I was put in a truck day one at Holland in 1992. Why does the company think no one knows how to drive when they hire them? Oh wait they don't know how to drive because they don't want to pay anything so the experienced drivers won't apply for a job.My retirement date is scheduled for December 2018. I'll turn 62 at this point and willing to give up 18% to move forward with the last faze of life. But I'm delaying long enough to get to vote. I hope our leaders (IBT) will send a strong message to YRCW that anything less than a fair contract will be unacceptable.
Wong they are do If it at all the terminals because they know they can only get so much production efficiency out of the driving school guys.Don't know IF they doing this at all barns but they are working the **** out of the Senior guys , adding on more pick ups out of the normal to keep them out 13 to 14 hours a day !!
They created the mess and now they have to live with the fact they have lost the workforce.What I see daily is,
Guys who do their job working 10-12 a day,
Guys who **** and moan about everything, come in off the street when they want.
Guys who steal about 2-3 hours of time a day,bring back deliveries,and get 10-12 a day.
Guys who want only 8 a day,blowing off pickups,and coming through the gate on 7:30 hours
Flash, the newbies can't really look at it as a career anymore. For one when we started sure we looked at the dollar figure and bennies, but most of us looked at the finish line. When they removed the finish line by freezing the pension the career aspect was removed and it became nothing more then a dead end job.The worst part about this is that decades ago, we looked at Holland as CAREER not just a job. Now these fools take it as just another job that is disposable, and don't do enough research to know what they are getting themselves in to.
And yes, the company would like to get rid of those drivers who have a link to it's former benefits package.
Flash, the newbies can't really look at it as a career anymore. For one when we started sure we looked at the dollar figure and bennies, but most of us looked at the finish line. When they removed the finish line by freezing the pension the career aspect was removed and it became nothing more then a dead end job.
I hear daily, "this is the best dead end job around, where else can you work and get away with the crap that we get away with.", when this becomes the prevailing outlook from your senior personnel you have garnered at best a lackluster attitude toward the job from your workforce.
For new hires there is no finish line in site under current conditions. Due to the restraints placed under union membership tied to a pension plan that is underfunded contribution wise, new hires would have to work into their 100's to get even a moderate return.
This on top of the fact that for the most part this company shifted from being the company that required experienced personnel; to a company that is now the training ground for driving school graduates. Not all onboarding personal are millennial's, but for many who are, the general consensus of this generation is to dable. By this I mean, unlike many generations prior they are not looking as we did for that finish line. Pensions and even long term employment at the same place is old school in their eyes.
Today's live in the moment, self centered entitled generation does not really look for the so called "legacy" aspects that companies once offered. Without trying to harp on them to much because there is the good and bad in every generation, and there are exceptions to this attitude as well in this generation as well. For the most part this generation is living in the moment and at best looking at the short term. One can not fault them for this since they only have the experience of their parents to base this outlook on.
For those 35 and younger let's look at what they witnessed as they grew up for the most part. With exception they observed that their parents who were once promised longevity in carrer fields scramble as those promises collapsed around them. As we move to those in their 20's it only compounds at a higher rate, these kids observed company after company that their parents once relyed upon in one form or anouther fail their parents. Add in recession, bankruptcy's, foreclosure's of homes, marital discord due to many of the aspects that this career places upon a relationship, high debt loads, etc... what you get as a result is an outlook very different from what many of those who are older than this current generation observed from their parents.
Not even on his radar, but he will be a good one once elected.Quite a post to reply to, but I'll try. The first two paragraphs seems to describe most trucking jobs anymore. I (hypothetically of course) cut off my left one 25 years ago to be at one of the big two beverage companies. Five years ago or so, I became embarrassed to work there. Now at a non ltl, it sure seems most folks' goal is to get away with as much as they can. And if fired, so what? I'll go down the street is the thinking. Finally, between your two extended posts, get on as Pence's veep in 20 and you have my vote.