There is no easy answer to this cluster f*** that we find ourselves in. Obviously, it is with tongue in cheek that I suggest that we throw the retirees under the bus. For just one minute though, I ask you to put yourselves in my shoes. Many of you got your cash after 30 years....I must work 46 1/2 to get (maybe) the same thing. I speak as a frustrated Teamster that got the rug pulled out from under him and could go on and on with all the broken promises and outright lies told to me throughout the years. You retired guys never had to vote on an MOU with the threat of a company shutdown as the current workers have. A yes vote was not a sign of weakness, its just a whole different ballgame than it was 15 or 20 years ago. I wish all the retirees nothing but happiness and prosperity , enjoying the pensions they rightfully deserve.