How Long Will It Take To Realize What is Happening?

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by 6PakAbs, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Union Pacific can't even have self driving trains and them things are on rails. I don't know how they are supposed to run trucks down the road. Our own trucks slam on the brakes for overhead signs and they are supposed to drive by themselves? I don't know about that.
     
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  2. ABFer

    ABFer Well-Known Member

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    Who won't let them have the self driving trains, the union or the gubment? With some of the recent wrecks one would think that self driving trains might be an improvement. It is hard to believe that they don't at least have speed limiting controls in use.
     
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  3. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    The government. Csx union is also teamsters and cant stop outsourcing much less keep csx from installing computers to drive
     
  4. ABFer

    ABFer Well-Known Member

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    It is their loss that they are now teamsters. And you are right, the teamsters couldn't prevent them from installing the computers to drive but they could have language that the guys couldn't be displaced by innovation.
     
  5. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Interesting thought abfer, but I have family members who WERE part of that company and it's useless union and feel confident to say unequivocally that the union reps are bought and paid for by the company. The filing of a grievance won't matter because it'll be ignored. When I say paid for, I mean it literally
     
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  6. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Canary, this is what i cut my teeth on with RTL, no heaters, some had TS, not all, saddle tanks and snuff can size mirrors.
    5spd direct trans, no aux. no 2 spd,450 Red Diamond engine Holly 2 brl carb
     
  7. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    I know a couple guys who say the same thing around here. Blet and teamsters suck, as do the union that the conductor's belong to. No power, no spine, no protection whatsoever.
     
  8. 6PakAbs

    6PakAbs Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how our Brothers and Sisters that are EX-Consolidated Freightways Teamsters think about Labor Day now? One of those things that means it won't ever be the same...Hey Judy, if you are watching...don't do it on Labor Day...just the significance of it...that is why it hurt so bad for CF Employees
     
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  9. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    The government. Too many accidents.
    I'm sure self driving trucks will come, just not so sure it's going to be as soon as many (companies) want.
     
  10. wheelman1857

    wheelman1857 Active Member

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    new city bids, sitting by the freeways, waiting on the self driven trucks to arrive. then you take over in the city. New meaning to the meet and greet.
     
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  11. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    You guys are both wrong.........It ain't the government, or the companies,.........It's the liability lawyers on retainer for the companies that are horrified that they no longer have "human error" to blame, and someone other than the company to sue in the inevitable crashes that will occur.

    Here in Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon has been testing self-driving cars for several years,...........and that is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room. Not much "real-world" testing goes on......
     
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  12. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Hah! Thanks for the video, Brother! However, I saw some eerie similarities in how sluggish that old truck started,.......and how I "start" in the morning...........Even the tinny little horn toot was startlingly familiar........
     
  13. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    So true!
     
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  14. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    "Welcome to the club", Brother
     
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  15. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Quite a few years back I thought I had to work at my home shop in addition to my regular shift. I pulled & rebuilt a RD 450 in a R-190. A neighbor actually used it for a lowboy tractor. He was older than me & had operated equipment all his life.He had a small construction company & managed well. The R-190 was all he needed at the time. I saw several like these at the truck show in Springfield Mo. a few years back.
     
  16. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    I guess they were ok for their days.
    We snapped a lot of exhaust valve heads, they came out with a ball bearing rotor on the retainer, and a contraption
    that sprayed a mist of Marvel Mystery Oil on the rocker arms, the problem went away.
    We later got IHC city tractors with a 501 red, with 4 brl carbs, they had 8 spd roadrangers, never drove one of these.
    We had A50 Macks with 431 engines, up draft carbs,they replaced # 1 and 6 spark plugs about every 2 weeks from
    running too lean,
    Back in those days, broken axles were common in most trucks, those KB 11s had a Timken differential, I never heard
    of an axle or any other failure with these rear ends. " Boy the good old days"
     
  17. forkspoon

    forkspoon Big Member

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    A spin off is inevitable, there is no stopping it now. Rebranding, renaming, new logos, a second headquarter building, additional companies bought and added. It's all over except for the happy announcment of how flexible it will make the whole company and how we will all be better off for it.
     
  18. 6PakAbs

    6PakAbs Well-Known Member

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    so..will the ABF Freight employees (labor) be better off with the flexibility...just wondering ...opinions, please?
     
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  19. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    Oh, that was definite sarcasm. Depending who the LTL section goes to, it could be disastrous. All that "increased flexibility" talk means "we are now non-union, and we can do what we please."
     
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  20. LS1GTO

    LS1GTO Former LTL driver turned package monkey...

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    I believe our top rate is close to $36 an hour... Not trying to rub it in, just saying...
     

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