Yep!!! And in our contract, that benchmark was five years. What happened to my friend at R&L was an absolute travesty, and what happened to the two people you mention is no less of a travesty. Plus, it's dumb!! Training people costs money, and a lot of it.
Hats and cups and belt buckles. Buy em in bulk from oriental trading for pennies on the dollar.
It happens at Estes when people transfer from one terminal to another because they can't move up at their terminal. They will come on 90 days prior to bidding because you have to do 90 days before you can bid at bid time. Then bam the guys are that are their planning their move to climb the ladder they may actually get knocked back.
That's why when i hear their spill on loyalty I'm like yeah right. I give 100 percent and do my job as safely and efficient as i can, but i can not put my faith and trust in any company because when it comes down to it I'm replaceable and its all about their way or the highway. The tragedy with the 2 workers is short term disability isn't enough to pay your bills and the once its gone they can you so now you have no insurance and are still having to see the doctors trying to save your life. Firing a person when they are struggling to live is wrong. They were being a team player and didn't ask for the cancer yet it came to them. These companies making record profit could care less it seems. It's nothing personal its just business is their attitude.
Now you can understand the worthwhileness of a Union. We have all-important negotiated protections that prevent exactly this sort of thing. In these two workers situations, the stress of their life-threatening illness, then the added stress of having "the rug pulled out from under them" can worsen their medical issues or even more, can put them "over the edge" do where they harm themselves fatally.
Ghost, you've made no secret of your disdain for Unions. I've retired now, but was a Teamster member for nearly 50 years, and in another labor union for a few years before that. I worked my buns off all of that time trying to ensure my employer's profitability. That attitude has a simple cliche: take pride in yourself and what you do. I will readily admit that I have been at odds with Teamster leadership (and some of the rank-and-file) plenty of times. I too have seen a lot of Teamsters lose their jobs. But....those job losses don't hold a candle to the number of non-unionized drivers I've seen lose their jobs. The raw seniority numbers spell it out well: I had a guy who was number 1 seniority at his terminal. He had been there 58 years. Another terminal's number 1 man had been there 54 years. These people could have retired long ago, but they love what they do. I was there for 32 years and had 8% of my terminal roster ahead of me. It would have been more than that if Yellow Corp. hadn't defaulted on our pension payments in 2009. I don't know of ANY non-unionized shop out there that has retention numbers even close to that.
Well said, Ed. While Estes, OD and R&L may be doing fine, they are largely doing so on the backs of their employees. All of them have significant turnover of employees. I'm not against them, but I too have many years of Teamster pension credits that now provide me (as a recent retiree) with a darn good monthly stipend. It would have been considerably better if Yellow hadn't defaulted on our retirement payments in 2009, but it's still darn good.
Am I guessing correctly that your comment is directed toward ghostbommbb??
Like me at the casino , they give it right back , taxes , bills , purchases . Some city's have requirements that the city employees have to reside in that city so they give their paycheck mostly back to who they got it from
Here is the fund I am in they didn’t need any help from taxpayers or a government bailout.
You must not be in Central States. Unfortunately most of the country IS in Central States. Which is doing ok now, but like another poster said, thanks to the taxpayers. I’m glad their pensions were saved, but I’m not so happy about the fact that as a taxpayer I’m partially on the hook for it. I know it’s hindsight, but UPS should have never been allowed out of the Teamsters plan and Yellow being allowed to skate at 25% contributions for eons was a mistake as well. I know, I know, they would have folded a long time before they did had they not received concessions. But again, mismanagement by the company (and I’m sure the fund as well) are what put retirees pensions in jeopardy, at least in Central States.
And they upped the 401 contribution to 50% of 8% and 50% of 10% after 10 years of employment. As far as 401s go I haven’t heard of another company offering that much of a match. I’d love a pension but I doubt that will ever happen. With deregulation trucking is now designed to be non-union so of course any carrier faced with unionization will fight it tooth and nail. If not for deregulation I bet a lot of those carriers that have gone under would still be operating.
I can't believe you would begrudge helping maintain my lavish lifestyle.
You made enough car hauling, you don't need a pension.
Your thoughts and prayers are what carry me through my day Breeze, just so you know.
Fedex freight pays more. If you put in 6% they put in 8%. Best I've ever seen.
