It's all about greed, their not happy with making 5 to 15 cent on the dollar,they what more and you have to give up going out with the family,watching your son or daughter play sports,graduation,out of the question.no we have to many people off and we need you. Then you put in 25,30,even 40 years and now we want to take what little you worked so hard . Can we appreciate a little pension in the golden years.How about the Teamster that has 10,15,20 in the pension plan and it is has no cash as we allow the company's to stop paying in. 2008 is going to be a rough contract,but I willl do what ever it takes to see that those in front get what promise to them and those that start the trade today have a future retirement. Don't think for a minute the company's are going to give you a better plan.Did you not read the fine print before you signed.