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Your right .. sometimes I go off on these little crazy notions. Gene is JUST a driver like the rest of us. I apologize to everyone here.
And how does that help them please explain ? We already established that NO money from union dues or retirement contributions were going to prop up those failing funds so again what's your point?
For one sec you do think money will be deverted to help out these underfund persons. It also proves that after all the promises the union made to theses workers and now can't deliver it. The article also explains why the pension system is failing.
There all laws on the books that dictate where retirement money goes to .
I think your article pretty well explained what happened. The Teamsters can't control the market fluctuations that added to the underfunding nor when major companies contributing to the mepf's that close shop and move to Mexico or overseas. So how did they break promises?
I think anything worth fighting for usually has it obstacles and takes time . Companies and federal and state legislatures have made it difficult at best to form a union in your workplace. Does this mean everyone should just give up ? There's as reason they don't want unions and it's not for our benefit . If you or anyone does not feel you need a union to keep from losing anymore benefits especially when working for a slash and cut Wall street'r I say go for it.
How can the union help save your benefits for example? The company can choose to cancel something, say the pension match, as a business decision. How can the union force the company to keep it? Strike?
Remember that the threat of a union can often be more powerful than actually having a union!
Are you talking fifty years ago when guys were working twenty hour days for low pay and little or no benefits or are you talking in the last few years when companies decided not to pay overtime and charge the employees big dollars for sub standard health insurance?
For the record UPS is the biggest freight/package transportation company. Very profitable. They have pilots and drivers ( among others ) in unions.
One of the other mechanics just quit yesterday and he's going to UPS ,his starting pay is $32 free medical pension 401 and vacation. But i don't think that has anything to do with having representation. I think UPS just like's giving out money and benefits.
Well ,what did we do when they cut wage's benefits and cut the pension plan in 2008?
Do you think it was a coincidence they gave out a .70 cent pay raise weeks b4 a unions votes. Yes, your welcome.
We sat their like helpless sheep I remember saying to myself why does no one care as they told us. Most of the replies were " I don't know what are you gonna do"
666 you should know better. That wasn't coincidence. We got something because of all the outspoken people, who spoke with management and management agreed that giving was the right thing to do. The union was never a factor. All we had to do was give management another chance.
