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eBiTDa said:
Do what?
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If your pointing out that a single person takes on a big company Pusser style I don't think you'll get far. What kinda of wood will your stick be ?
I tell you what if you go into work Pusser style I will have your back. You go first.:17142::bat:
 
eBiTDa said:
You asked for an example of someone who stood on their own Jimmie's. I don't not condone or promote work place violence.
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I didn't ask. with all do respect I think your thought process needs some work. If your a true American your part of a Union of states that believes together collectively we have strength.
 
sucker666 said:
I didn't ask. with all do respect I think your thought process needs some work. If your a true American your part of a Union of states that believes together collectively we have strength.
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Yes, we have individual rights, that have been on a constant decline. We are not free market capitalist anymore. If you do not like our system, than you reject socialism, because that is what we are now. Anyways, since we are getting off topic, do check out Final Justice after you watch Walking Tall. It is Joe Don Baker's most profound work.
 
eBiTDa said:
Yes, we have individual rights, that have been on a constant decline. We are not free market capitalist anymore. If you do not like our system, than you reject socialism, because that is what we are now. Anyways, since we are getting off topic, do check out Final Justice after you watch Walking Tall. It is Joe Don Baker's most profound work.
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No I didn't see that one but I will on your recommendation. The original was one of My Dads favorites.
 
eBiTDa said:
Buford Pusser.
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Now, I have to agree that there are exceptions to the rule. Great story too. But, I still say that a collective voice is much stronger than one man standing alone, despite the collectives tendency to devour one another. It just makes sense.
 
highspeeds said:
Something dramatic is about to happen. I don't have any idea what. But things are not going to be able to continue as they are.
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I agree... I have been saying for a while this is not sustainable.

If investors saw what we see they'd be selling off quickly. Sad
 
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sucker666 said:
Why should someone have to go and start over at the bottom at another company to get compensated what their worth. I think the effort is well worth it.
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A lot of people don't think that this company is worth it. It's why so many have left since Con-way died. Not many agree with you. Less and less everyday.
 
sucker666 said:
No one is forcing anyone . With everything going on why doesn't the company improving things ?
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It's plenty clear from everything that is out in the media right now, that the company is only interested in making Brad Jacobs rich by hook or by crook and that he isn't scared to use both at the same time.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Consider having to go out of network for a doctor for someone on the family plan. What if the best doctor for your condition is not in network. Your cost would be 3K deductible + 5K in premiums + 20K out of pocket. That's 28K and the road to bankruptcy for some.
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What you say here is true. Now consider. You can put together a vote. And deal with negotiations with a company that will no longer exist by time you NEVER get a contract versus you fill out an application and in 30, 60 or 90 days whatever it is, you have everything without any fight at all.
 
Hollywoodz said:
We have hired well over 30 drivers since I've been here, about 7 years. I can't remember even one who came to us from a union company. That's not to say it doesn't happen. It does. But I'm guessing that there are way more drivers who left for a union company than the reverse.

As you state, the basics of the job are the same. Deliver freight and pick up freight. I still argue that better benefits = better compensation = better job.
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Your experience is skewed by your location. You are I the south. I am not.

Better compensation doesn't change the job at all. It may change your motivation to keep that job. But the job is what it is.
 
sucker666 said:
I can report the same at our location as far as drivers from union jobs not coming here. I do know over all the years I have been here I have seen hundreds of drivers leave. (yes hundreds) No one is knocking down the door to get in here either since the late 90's when we had 100% company paid (Good )insurance and a pension.
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They don't want us here. The more that leave, the better. High turnover and outsourced labor are staples of short term flippers. CCX wanted you for a career and gave pay and benefits that attracted those individuals. XPO just wants you for a season or two. If you find something else, then good for you. We got people leaving for Central Transport. And I used to talk ::shit:: about them. But any more even they have it better than we do. Can't even talk ::shit:: about SWIFT any more. We got dock hands holding wheels. Don't get any greener than that.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Think of the possibilities if ALL drivers from ALL companies were covered by union contracts. It's just a dream of mine. The work "strike" could be eliminated from the dictionary, because just the threat of a strike would bring these companies to their knees. We have a talent. We have a marketable skill. We provide an essential service that keeps every aspect of this society functional. Why do we accept substandard treatment from companies who can clearly afford to do better.
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This is the way it used to be. Deregulation destroyed this model.
 
Hollywoodz said:
This nightmare of an employment situation exists because we allow it to exist by working around the problem. You're right...same job, different uniform, different color truck. My point is that union contracts offer benefits that make the job better. Contracts offer the opportunity to negotiate working conditions. Neither side gets everything they want but whatever is agreed to in the contract can only be changed but further negotiation between the two parties. As it is now...we DO whatever they SAY.

What about drivers who have the advantages that seniority brings. They get their choice of tractor and start time. They have better PTO accrual which translates into more vacation time. ETC. I only have 7 years but I wouldn't want to start over someplace else. Besides, I believe that this company can be a great place to work with some modifications. I like the people with whom I work. Many are my good friends.

I can't understand why two people like you and me, who have the same issues with this company and this industry are in constant disagreement over what to do about it. All this demonstrates is that the company and their minions are succeeding in their quest to divide us despite our common ground.
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If you ran your own company, you wouldn't want it done your way ? You wouldn't want to hire people that followed your understanding of things ? Check the UPS thread. I have worked there myself. There is a union in place. And you will still do whatever the company says.

And you say these benefits and so on are worth a never ending fight. That they could cost you tens of thousands of dollars.... but they aren't worth losing a weeks vacation over or that it would be so unfathomable to have to slip seat for a while ? Talk about first world problems. Do you understand how talking in circles like this undermines you own position ? That such petty, ignorant and trivial things could be held in higher regard ?

It's got nothing to do with the company minions. You believe a bunch of fairy tale nonsense will save this place. I am 100% certain it will not. It's the old, wish in one hand and ::shit:: in the other, trick. I know which one will fill up first. That's the difference. You are willing to put faith in something that will never happen in the future over the reality of the situation you are dealing with right now.
 
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