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serenity over seniority
Here we go with this BS again, huh?... So guys, what's the excuse when a 32 year old man driving the family to Florida on Friday night after he's worked all day nods off, drives across the median or off the side of the road crashes and kills his family and maybe some bystanders?... Or the teenager out at night attempting to drive after drinking and partying with his buds, loses control, causes a wreck and lives are lost?... Or a 50 something person that had to make a career change, just graduated from some two-bit truck driving "academy" and runs into a situation that calls for some experience that they are lacking and makes a fatal decision?...
I don't think the fact that the driver is 77 years old has much to do with this... I've known Mr. Duff for several years. He's a good man and is very conscientious of his job and his duties and he takes his job seriously. Of course, he's well experienced. He probably has more miles on him backing up than most of you have driving forward. What happened in Virginia could have happened to any of you... We encounter numerous potential disasters daily in this line of work. You know it and I damn sure know it... So who are you people to sit at your keyboards, make assumptions and cast stones?... All you seen was a few online articles from a bias media that specializes in sensationalism to maintain a certain viewer share so they can hawk some advertising space for top dollar...
The decision to continue driving at his age is his and the Doctor that certifies him as being in good health and fit to drive... I know drivers half his age that have to be certified yearly because of heart problems, hypertension, etc, etc... I know many more in that same age category that suffer from sleep disorders, respiratory and circulatory ailments, and other ailments caused from high stress and poor health choices... What do you say when one of them lands in a similar situation?
I dare say that Mr. Duff is probably in better physical shape than most of you reading this... Is that an assumption or fact? Hmmm...
Here we go with this BS again, huh?... So guys, what's the excuse when a 32 year old man driving the family to Florida on Friday night after he's worked all day nods off, drives across the median or off the side of the road crashes and kills his family and maybe some bystanders?... Or the teenager out at night attempting to drive after drinking and partying with his buds, loses control, causes a wreck and lives are lost?... Or a 50 something person that had to make a career change, just graduated from some two-bit truck driving "academy" and runs into a situation that calls for some experience that they are lacking and makes a fatal decision?...
I don't think the fact that the driver is 77 years old has much to do with this... I've known Mr. Duff for several years. He's a good man and is very conscientious of his job and his duties and he takes his job seriously. Of course, he's well experienced. He probably has more miles on him backing up than most of you have driving forward. What happened in Virginia could have happened to any of you... We encounter numerous potential disasters daily in this line of work. You know it and I damn sure know it... So who are you people to sit at your keyboards, make assumptions and cast stones?... All you seen was a few online articles from a bias media that specializes in sensationalism to maintain a certain viewer share so they can hawk some advertising space for top dollar...
The decision to continue driving at his age is his and the Doctor that certifies him as being in good health and fit to drive... I know drivers half his age that have to be certified yearly because of heart problems, hypertension, etc, etc... I know many more in that same age category that suffer from sleep disorders, respiratory and circulatory ailments, and other ailments caused from high stress and poor health choices... What do you say when one of them lands in a similar situation?
I dare say that Mr. Duff is probably in better physical shape than most of you reading this... Is that an assumption or fact? Hmmm...
Sometimes I just want to ask them how it feels to come in and work for minimum wage
Stan,
While I don't agree with rubbing anything in anybody's face I wonder what came first.....the rubbing it in or the making fun of older guys who have earned the right to work as they see fit. The state or quality of, or lack thereof, being junior in the Teamster LTL world is what each and every one of us have to endure and being patient in the process detracts from the spread of the nasty disease. Acceptance and patience are the keys to overcoming what must be a terrible way to live. I'd hate to be that angry at such a young age.....it's bad for one's health. While I agree that some, if not many, senior men work way too much and wait too long to retire it's up to them and should never be changed to pacify anxious junior men who can't wait their turn.
Also, I know I remember you preparing to leave for another job you referred to as a blessing in the tumultuous times at the LCP facility.......what happened?
Here, Here!... You're right on the money, UnionJack... Way too many people grew up way too easy... They're so thin-skinned that they're damn near invisible...Here we go again with the seniority issue again. Some are not going to like this but they will just have to grow up and be big boys.
Once upon a time in my life I had to stand against a wall with a rifle and look at paint for 4 hours a day. This guy with rank would approach me and command me to answer question as his spit and coffee breath would spray over my face. Then sometime later I had to clean hallways and bathrooms. This guy would walk around and say "You missed a spot". Later, I had to watch allarms and gauges plus patrol a 800 foot ship, I did this for 4 hours twice a day. Later, on in life I had check on this guy to see that he wasn't falling asleep on watch, after that I had to make sure that the secutity guy was not missing his check on gauges and fire alarms. I would catch him reading "playboy" more times hen I can count. I then would have hours of paperwork to do on this and get it to my officer. Once I had to take guys to a captains mast for not doing their job, if I did'nt, I was going in their place in front of the captain. I watched my officer get chewed out then ordered to stay on board ship for 30 days because the captain did not like what he saw. Maybe we need a draft again so that some people could grow up and learn that you gotta put in your time. And sometimes it's not easy to be on top. My opinion and I am stickin with it.:smilie_132:
If I live to be 77 years old, I will have been retired for at least 15 years. I don't want to be driving trucks in the middle of the night any longer than I have to. If I get bored in retirement, I will do volunteer work.
There is no law or rule that says you have to retire at a certain age. If he can pass all the tests he has as much right to work as anyone else.
P.S. FOR stan. I will search for a prayer for you.
Remember when the Guv put a "retire age" on us? We had to retire a certain age. Now the Guv wants us to work till we croak. You, my friend are going his way too...don't lie to me...We had a pic from a paper with a yellow rearended another truck and burst into flames.the 77 year old yellow driver was pulled out by some passing motorist.come on now 77 years old.time to hang it up.
LOL! Hoffa has nothing to do with this thread.....nothing. I suppose Leedham would have solved all the world's ills?With the current trend and junior running the show, we all well be working till we are 70 or 80 If we have jobs at all
"Seniority Envy", I agree. It is also combined with "ME!!ME!!ME!!ME!!"