Well, papa, You will be voting no then....you may want to go check out The Roundtable post on the ABFatwork site....the company has already boldy posted that...(the) "agreement that you will be presented with will be the best one that you receive. I encourage all of you to ratify this important agreement and help put ABF back on the road to profitability." If this thing is not ratified they will SELL! You will NOT get to vote on that....and YOU WILL go immediately to the YRCW pay scale....concessions by default, and if you have the seniority to hold a spot, you will bust your ASS or you will be RUN OFF! The Union has stock in YRC! They are all in bed together. I'm just going to assume your blind, not stupid. Now, have you ever heard the old saying, "Don't cut off your nose, to spite your face." That's where we find ourselves in this negotiations. Look, I want to keep what we have too, but, the billionaires bankrolling YRC are driving this train Brother. Of course, we all know there are no crooks on Wall Street. Personally, I would be out of the game, by seniority default, when a YRC/ABF merger took place. The bottom 2 guys here at YRC stay on lay-off, working 2-3 days a week, so only one ABF guy here would be able to hold a spot, I might get a recall in 5 years, there would be 3 retiring in that time period, and if they kept UPack going and could hold on to some of the accounts, I might get a recall at some point down the road, but I just don't think I could ever walk back in that place. Driving trucks is what I enjoy, but it's not all I know how to do. I'm not scared, that's just the facts. If I were layed off this morning, one phone call and I will be working in the morning, that's why I wasn't scared to leave the top spot at YRC and go to the bottom over here. Decent paying jobs have never been a problem for me to find, because I will WORK!