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Ups freight First organized terminal was Indianapolis if I recall and it went from there after Ups bought them .
Ups did not fight them to a large degree because the majority of their workers were all ready Teamsters in package . Strength in numbers talks.
Something most here don’t understand.
 
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The barn in TX that decertified tried it saw no value and got rid of Teamsters. Why in the world would any other barn vote

There are several factors in play here. First, the business agent for Laredo is one of the best negotiators I have ever seen. Unfortunately, the problem that he, and all the other certified barns face is a total lack of support from the other barns in the system. I get it that there are many who refuse to see the benefits of union representation, however, there are many more who see it, but refuse to do anything about it. With a little help from those barns, this could have been and may still be a very different story.

Second, there is no way the Laredo people could have known the actual value of the contract as it stood at the time of decertification. Articles agreed upon are called T/A's, or tentative agreements. Since they are tentative no business agent or committee member discusses these agreements outside the negotiating room. They are not final and not discussed, until the contract is ratified and signed by both parties. They could change at any time before the contract is signed.

Another barn will be voting shortly and we'll see how that turns out.

The reason that other barns will vote in the future is because XPO is still taking and we are still losing out. The health care gets worse every year. Discipline in stricter every year. We lose bereavement days, pto accumulation and the latest debacle is laying off drivers or leaving them sitting at home while IC's and owner/operators move our freight and make our money. XPO is now advertising for owner/operators in select markets to run truckload. Admittedly, that has no immediate effect on our operation, but how long before these brand new owner operators are given line haul runs to avoid running empty in slow lanes. How many meet and turns will be lost to a team who can make the run in one shot? Some people have higher tolerance for disrespect and abuse, but hopefully, people will wake up to the reality that is happening all around them.

I hope you can be honest and answer the following question. I haven't had an honest response yet. You have a team of attorneys working on a legal issue for you "pro bono". They are not charging you a single cent for representing you. They meet with you for two days each month and try to negotiate a fair deal between you and the second party. You have no other real options as you could not afford to hire another team of attorneys and you haven't the knowledge or the power to represent yourself. Would you fire them, especially when they are so close to a deal? Well, would you?

To be fair, there is no doubt that we are not going to get the contract we wanted. First contracts often fall short of expectations. Our hope is that through the duration of that first contract, many more terminals realize the value of representation and jump on board. It's only then, we will receive the contract we all need.

And, a final word of warning. The Teamsters are all that stands in the way of Mr. Jacobs implementing the model he envisioned on the day he negotiated the deal to purchase XPO. He wants to transition to a Ceva model, where the majority of his work force are owner/operators and the minority are actual employees. It was always his dream to become asset light and eliminate all the expenses of operating a transportation company. His plans are in motion already, but he has to do it slowly, so as no one will really notice. How many of you actually know what's going on in other terminals around the country? If it weren't for the presence of the Teamsters, this plan would have already enveloped the bulk of this system. It could be the end of LTL as we know it. His model will be able to offer rates that no other company can match. One by one, he will absorb them all and when he has more than he needs, he'll have all of us cutting each others throat to carry loads that barely cover our expenses. Think it can't happen? Think again.
 
You spiced it up just fine...and I agree with almost everything you said. However, I think a union may be able to fix some of it. Others have made this point: WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOSE? Even if I am wrong and the union can't fix it, you will at least get to aggravate the :::shit::: out of them for a little while and you could get some decent benefits out of it.
Hold on here. You know what YRC and XPO have in common? Greed. In fact so much so that both of these companies chose the easy path of growth from acquisition as opposed to growth organically or growth from within. If the union can be held blameless for the failures of YRC then how can you say that a union can fix XPO?
 
Hold on here. You know what YRC and XPO have in common? Greed. In fact so much so that both of these companies chose the easy path of growth from acquisition as opposed to growth organically or growth from within. If the union can be held blameless for the failures of YRC then how can you say that a union can fix XPO?
I don’t think it’s a matter of a union fixing Xpo’s poor management or strategic business plans . That’s on the big shots and no union can fix that. Unionization in my opinion stops or slows the take from the inside for employees or at the very least gives you a seat at the table. If anyone wants to organize to fix Xpo’s operational problems I think it would be the wrong reason.

I think if unionization leads to attracting quality drivers through offering a better compensation and work environment that it could be helpful to the companies operation.
 
companies chose the easy path of growth from acquisition as opposed to growth organically or growth from within
I couldn’t agree more. This type of growth is problematic to say the least. It is what’s driving this company at the moment and is Jacobs MO with every company. The focus is completely on bringing cost down to drive the stock price up . Not the customer. It’s the reason I personally voted to organize and protect what we have after the acquisition of Con-way. I personally decided we would need some sort of protection after doing research on his business practices with other acquisitions. Mr Jacobs has made it quite clear that he will replace drivers with AI as soon as he can do so. I’m not faulting him for that but it gives a clear insight into the thinking of how intense the pressure is to limit cost when it comes to us. I think we are many years off from this and in the meantime we need a say at the table.
 
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Ups freight First organized terminal was Indianapolis if I recall and it went from there after Ups bought them .
Ups did not fight them to a large degree because the majority of their workers were all ready Teamsters in package . Strength in numbers talks.
Something most here don’t understand.

If I remember correctly, when UPS purchased Overnite they 'allowed' organization without any resistance....

A side deal was made where UPS (parcel) was 'permitted' to withdraw from the CSPF????? Thus killing the teamster pensions forever..

Quid Pro Quo...
 
If I remember correctly, when UPS purchased Overnite they 'allowed' organization without any resistance....

A side deal was made where UPS (parcel) was 'permitted' to withdraw from the CSPF????? Thus killing the teamster pensions forever..

Quid Pro Quo...
I have heard all sorts of stories about that. Can’t confirm or deny that. Withdrawal from CSPF did not kill ALL Teamsters pension funds.
 
Hold on here. You know what YRC and XPO have in common? Greed. In fact so much so that both of these companies chose the easy path of growth from acquisition as opposed to growth organically or growth from within. If the union can be held blameless for the failures of YRC then how can you say that a union can fix XPO?
That's every company these days, it's just the times were in....greed....
 
A driver was running his mouth in the dispatch room.

Him : We need to be going union like those guys in Laredo.

Me : Laredo just decertified.

Him : Really ?

Me : swallows laughter and looks back blankly out of respect for my dude
 
A driver was running his mouth in the dispatch room.

Him : We need to be going union like those guys in Laredo.

Me : Laredo just decertified.

Him : Really ?

Me : swallows laughter and looks back blankly out of respect for my dude
Doesn't make him wrong.
 
Doesn't make him wrong.

There is no right or wrong. Con-way is dead. It happened. A union won't bring it back. There are plenty of companies out there looking for drivers. Eventually. We will all realize XPO isn't one of them.
 
There is no right or wrong. Con-way is dead. It happened. A union won't bring it back. There are plenty of companies out there looking for drivers. Eventually. We will all realize XPO isn't one of them.

None of them will until we force them to.
 
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