What's new

XPO | Con-Way Truck involved in crash

primadona said:
No comment yet on ANYTHING except the fact that you found it necessary to point out that you actually talked to a "women" on your cell phone. Huh? Wha?
Click to expand...

What's wrong with that?

The other (Monday) day, I bought stamps (forever stamps) at the (Main) post office and the (counter) person that sold them to me (Bank) was a (female) woman.......So, what's the problem (issue) here???
 
The Truth Hurts said:
Pushed too hard to meet schedules impossible to meet will always result in tragic situations.
It also has been said he came over a blind hill upon the previous accident.
I have witnessed Con-Way doubles "driving" hard along Chicago area highways. This I feel is the result of management pushing drivers to the limit. Con-Way needs to visit it's policies and kept the drivers and the public safe.
Click to expand...

I am one of those chicago drivers and if you really seen unsafe driving it was by choice not forced by management...and can any REAL conway driver honestly say that thay were forced to do something illegal or unsafe...and if you were so concerned about this form of driving y didnt you call linehaul....DO you have the number
 
gunner1119 said:
Unless I missed it , this is still under investigation. I think that it is wrong to blame or condemn this driver. Like I mentioned in a earlier Post , why wasn't a Safety Vehicle at the top of the hill? One News Article even stated that a Safety Vehicle is S.O.P. for a situation like this but there wasn't any communication between the State Patrol and the Sheriff Department. No matter if he is found guilty or not , this man is going to go thru personal grief and self torture the rest of his life.
Years ago I was involved in a accident in my own personal vehicle that was not my fault. No one was killed but it was bad. To this day , every time I go thru that intersection it haunts me. I ask everyone , PLEASE stop attacking this driver. Even if he gets ticketed for it , this was not intentional. This is a tragedy for the Driver and his family not to mention the family that was killed. We need to have some respect for all involved. No matter how safe we try to be , ANY ONE OF US COULD BE NEXT!!! :shift:
Click to expand...

Agreed. The state should have had a safety vehicle or at the very least, another trooper back at the crest of the hill with his lights on.
 
I see what I see.....I am drive I80, I-94, I-294, and I-65 all the time.
I do not feel on this accident he was at fault until the final report comes in.
Fingers are being pointed at everyone at this point.
BUT, I do know from comments from pass and current drivers pressure is there make time on the road.
 
I have seen all kinds of negative posts in this thread but I have yet to see any asking how the driver is. We all know how the family of those who died must be and my prayers go out to them.

If anyone knows this driver personally, how is he doing? I pray that God will help him through this difficult time. Please let him know that many are praying for him.
 
Zoots said:
I have seen all kinds of negative posts in this thread but I have yet to see any asking how the driver is. We all know how the family of those who died must be and my prayers go out to them.

If anyone knows this driver personally, how is he doing? I pray that God will help him through this difficult time. Please let him know that many are praying for him.
Click to expand...
Regardless of the outcome of any investigation, this driver is done. Even if he walks away with no civil or criminal consequences, this incident will haunt him forever. I can't begin to imagine the pain in his heart.
He will relive the moments before the crash over and over, trying to think of what he might have done to avoid it. I was sickened when I saw the picture of that toy truck and bicycle, imagine what he is going through.
I hope and pray that he is able to somehow be at peace with what has happened. I can't imagine him ever stepping into a truck again, but I hope he finds some way to go on with help from family and friends.
 
primadona said:
Regardless of the outcome of any investigation, this driver is done. Even if he walks away with no civil or criminal consequences, this incident will haunt him forever. I can't begin to imagine the pain in his heart.
He will relive the moments before the crash over and over, trying to think of what he might have done to avoid it. I was sickened when I saw the picture of that toy truck and bicycle, imagine what he is going through.
I hope and pray that he is able to somehow be at peace with what has happened. I can't imagine him ever stepping into a truck again, but I hope he finds some way to go on with help from family and friends.
Click to expand...

Alot of my guys have been talking about this out west here, and they are all fully supportive of the driver, but they all admit to not knowing the geography involved, so they have decided to take the wait and see on this and let the investigators do their work..hopefully it will be fair...people just love to attack the best drivers in the land, because they just don't know any better...I often think the highways would be a safer place if EVERYONE went through and practiced the Smith System curriculum..I know it made me a helluva alot different, and better, driver..I am way different around trucks now then I was before...
 
First hello from one driver's wife to another!

I've read that info and it seems to go both ways. The flatbed driver felt something hit him from behind. But then it states: could not stop in time and hit the rear of the Workman's pickup truck, pushing it into the rear of the first semi.

I asked on the other thread if the pickup hit the trailer first and then the Conway driver hit the pickup but it appears the Conway driver pushed the pickup into the flatbed.

I feel really bad for the family and the driver.

Driver's Wife said:
Hobart family killed in crash was on way to visit grandmother, Disney World / nwi.com

The semi driver, George A. Hack, 46, of Elkhorn, Wis., told police he felt something hit him from behind and later realized it was a Dodge pickup truck carrying the Workman family.

Another semi with double box trailers was also in the right lane when he approached the stopped traffic in front of him. That driver -- Forest E. Stover, 58, of Huber Heights, Ohio, could not stop in time and hit the rear of the Workman's pickup truck, pushing it into the rear of the first semi.
Click to expand...
 
Force1 said:
He was not in a city tractor. He was in a road unit WITH a radio. Yes it was coming back from PM.
Click to expand...
At first it looked like a city truck, yes I saw the pick I needed to, to see it was a road unit. Sorry to upset you over my lack of knowledge& thanks for setting me straight! :shift:
 
BoxBoss said:
Alot of my guys have been talking about this out west here, and they are all fully supportive of the driver, but they all admit to not knowing the geography involved, so they have decided to take the wait and see on this and let the investigators do their work..hopefully it will be fair...people just love to attack the best drivers in the land, because they just don't know any better...I often think the highways would be a safer place if EVERYONE went through and practiced the Smith System curriculum..I know it made me a helluva alot different, and better, driver..I am way different around trucks now then I was before...
Click to expand...
Well I saw on the local news the state police did not have hoosier helpers out there or enough police at the seen. The local news brought up speed. I am sure it is 65mph and our trucks do 62 mph. This was a sad and tragic loss of a family. My heart really goes out to the family that died.
 
teamsterwannaB said:
Well I saw on the local news the state police did not have hoosier helpers out there or enough police at the seen. The local news brought up speed. I am sure it is 65mph and our trucks do 62 mph. This was a sad and tragic loss of a family. My heart really goes out to the family that died.
Click to expand...

Would the local news be speculating..?? I am struggling with the idea that speed was a culprit when our tractors are governed at 62, and he was going uphill with roughly 35K of freight...doesn't sound logical, and it could be that it was just very poor handling of the scene by local officials at the top of the hill...Of course, they would never admit to that..
 
I think you are right on target there box, They said more on the news but I don`t want to say what else they said, Our driver is in enough of a bad situation, and I hope he can get through this tragedy.
 
I want to know why this driver was not looking far ahead, you know the 6 second rule, slow your speed down when you cannot see 1/2 to a mile ahead. I've driving up and down a lot of long hills out west and never had anyone on the side of the road to tell me to slow down. It is common sense when approaching a blind spot to slow down whether you are running empty's or 35,000lbs. up or down any hill. What if it was snowing? would'nt he have slowed down. You have to simply look far ahead (Smith System). All Good Kids Like Milk (A_G_K_L_M) AIM HIGH - GET THE FUll PICTURE - KEEP YOUR EYES MOVING - LEAVE YOURSELF AN OUT - MAKE SURE THEY SEE YOU...That is the Smith System. Live and Drive by it, it works, and will help keep you and others alive. When I worked at Conway they never showed this to me. Another LTL company (Saia) out west makes all drivers learn it and use it. Anyway, he plowed into the rear of another vehicle and he is at falt no matter what. Even if his brakes failed, did he do a proper pre trip? Check out how many drivers at Any Conway FAC, Look under their trailers with a flashlight and check their brake drums, pads, slack adjusters etc. They are always in a big hurry to hook and book back to their barn. I had one driver at Conway back in Philly say to me look how fast He can hook. Most Conway drivers think all you have to do is tug your set after you hook. Also if you take to long to hook you will be questioned by management, since you are on the clock while you are hooking. My bet he was on the cell phone........or eating since Conway does not believe in you taking a lunch. When was the Last time you saw a Conway linhaul driver sit down at any Fac and drike a coffee or God forbid he ate his lunch. Try to take your Lunch at XCV. I saw tom the dock supervisor (FOS) who runs sector 1 At XCV, tell a driver that you cannot eat here. he told this new driver to hook up, get in your Truck and go back to your barn, now. They treat you like dirt. I Pulled into a Rest stop once at Conway on the way back to my barn for breakfast and my FOS (Dennis) at XWC asked me why I was 30 min. late? Try to eat and drive going home in rush hour traffic. And forget about taking a nap. Your fellow (so called Family) drivers will rat you out in a new your second to your TM.
 
nightlinedr55 said:
I want to know why this driver was not looking far ahead, you know the 6 second rule, slow your speed down when you cannot see 1/2 to a mile ahead. I've driving up and down a lot of long hills out west and never had anyone on the side of the road to tell me to slow down. It is common sense when approaching a blind spot to slow down whether you are running empty's or 35,000lbs. up or down any hill. What if it was snowing? would'nt he have slowed down. You have to simply look far ahead (Smith System). All Good Kids Like Milk (A_G_K_L_M) AIM HIGH - GET THE FUll PICTURE - KEEP YOUR EYES MOVING - LEAVE YOURSELF AN OUT - MAKE SURE THEY SEE YOU...That is the Smith System. Live and Drive by it, it works, and will help keep you and others alive. When I worked at Conway they never showed this to me. Another LTL company (Saia) out west makes all drivers learn it and use it. Anyway, he plowed into the rear of another vehicle and he is at falt no matter what. Even if his brakes failed, did he do a proper pre trip? Check out how many drivers at Any Conway FAC, Look under their trailers with a flashlight and check their brake drums, pads, slack adjusters etc. They are always in a big hurry to hook and book back to their barn. I had one driver at Conway back in Philly say to me look how fast He can hook. Most Conway drivers think all you have to do is tug your set after you hook. Also if you take to long to hook you will be questioned by management, since you are on the clock while you are hooking. My bet he was on the cell phone........or eating since Conway does not believe in you taking a lunch. When was the Last time you saw a Conway linhaul driver sit down at any Fac and drike a coffee or God forbid he ate his lunch. Try to take your Lunch at XCV. I saw tom the dock supervisor (FOS) who runs sector 1 At XCV, tell a driver that you cannot eat here. he told this new driver to hook up, get in your Truck and go back to your barn, now. They treat you like dirt. I Pulled into a Rest stop once at Conway on the way back to my barn for breakfast and my FOS (Dennis) at XWC asked me why I was 30 min. late? Try to eat and drive going home in rush hour traffic. And forget about taking a nap. Your fellow (so called Family) drivers will rat you out in a new your second to your TM.
Click to expand...

90% of what u just posted is bullshit...Look driver there is an entire family dead here...you werent there you dont know the road and you dont know what happened period...so just keep youre thoughts and youre so called professional systems to youre self...I spent 10 years on 65 betwwen gary and loiusville and i am telling you i dont have a clue y it happenend but it did...rehashing here or you giving us youre reasons of how it could be avoided means nothing,,,,,nothing...and nothing will bring them back nor will it give that driver his career back....and stop trying to blame the company, we who work here know that that is not true....it seams that you are a disgruntled ex employee and u r using the wrong thread to grind that ax
 
nightlinedr55 said:
I want to know why this driver was not looking far ahead, you know the 6 second rule, slow your speed down when you cannot see 1/2 to a mile ahead. I've driving up and down a lot of long hills out west and never had anyone on the side of the road to tell me to slow down. It is common sense when approaching a blind spot to slow down whether you are running empty's or 35,000lbs. up or down any hill. What if it was snowing? would'nt he have slowed down. You have to simply look far ahead (Smith System). All Good Kids Like Milk (A_G_K_L_M) AIM HIGH - GET THE FUll PICTURE - KEEP YOUR EYES MOVING - LEAVE YOURSELF AN OUT - MAKE SURE THEY SEE YOU...That is the Smith System. Live and Drive by it, it works, and will help keep you and others alive. When I worked at Conway they never showed this to me. Another LTL company (Saia) out west makes all drivers learn it and use it. Anyway, he plowed into the rear of another vehicle and he is at falt no matter what. Even if his brakes failed, did he do a proper pre trip? Check out how many drivers at Any Conway FAC, Look under their trailers with a flashlight and check their brake drums, pads, slack adjusters etc. They are always in a big hurry to hook and book back to their barn. I had one driver at Conway back in Philly say to me look how fast He can hook. Most Conway drivers think all you have to do is tug your set after you hook. Also if you take to long to hook you will be questioned by management, since you are on the clock while you are hooking. My bet he was on the cell phone........or eating since Conway does not believe in you taking a lunch. When was the Last time you saw a Conway linhaul driver sit down at any Fac and drike a coffee or God forbid he ate his lunch. Try to take your Lunch at XCV. I saw tom the dock supervisor (FOS) who runs sector 1 At XCV, tell a driver that you cannot eat here. he told this new driver to hook up, get in your Truck and go back to your barn, now. They treat you like dirt. I Pulled into a Rest stop once at Conway on the way back to my barn for breakfast and my FOS (Dennis) at XWC asked me why I was 30 min. late? Try to eat and drive going home in rush hour traffic. And forget about taking a nap. Your fellow (so called Family) drivers will rat you out in a new your second to your TM.
Click to expand...
You brought up some valid points, but just not at the right time. I know every one of us is going to drive a little differently, more safely, after seeing these horrifying pictures. Going on a rant, valid or not, about Con-way just isn't the thing to do here.
 
I am going to agree that his rant was inappropriate on this venue, HOWEVER, much of what he had to say, is valid. I was recently ordered out of the restroom at the end of my 5hrs at FAC, was told I was taking too much time to clear the yard and that if I had to relieve myself I could do it after leaving the yard. Of course, there are ways around that little piece of anal retentive behaviour, as we all know.
 
av8tor said:
I am going to agree that his rant was inappropriate on this venue, HOWEVER, much of what he had to say, is valid. I was recently ordered out of the restroom at the end of my 5hrs at FAC, was told I was taking too much time to clear the yard and that if I had to relieve myself I could do it after leaving the yard. Of course, there are ways around that little piece of anal retentive behaviour, as we all know.
Click to expand...

There was ONE time that my Morning FOS jumped me in front of everybody for being late. I told him to check the rules. I am allowed two 15 minute breaks and ONE half hour break and the next time he had a question like that we could call XGO. At that point he shut his mouth and his face got red. Sort of nice with everybody watching and laughing at him.:nutkick::biglaugh::shift:
 
gunner1119 said:
There was ONE time that my Morning FOS jumped me in front of everybody for being late. I told him to check the rules. I am allowed two 15 minute breaks and ONE half hour break and the next time he had a question like that we could call XGO. At that point he shut his mouth and his face got red. Sort of nice with everybody watching and laughing at him.:nutkick::biglaugh::shift:
Click to expand...


Have seen drivers have to defend their lunch more then 100 times. I can't count how many times I have seen obvious displeasure displayed by supervision when a driver stops for lunch...in both L/H and P&D.

Different drivers react different ways to this; Some get mad and slow down. Some get mad and speed up and work through their lunch. And some want to appease the supervisor, say nothing, and work through their unpaid lunch.....maybe to take it later.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top