Brutus, my young freind, you are the young bull, and I am the old bull. You know the joke. Please go to page 2 post 20 and page 6 post 51 and read what I have said before on this thread. You know that I am an employee of con-way and that some people and myself are still fighting corporate america so to speak. If you still have your 2004 annual report you will read in it what my freinds and myself did with the menlo deal and why seven directors left in a period of one year. I can not get into the facts and I hope you understand. As said before on the con-way board as with this cf board, history will repeat itself if people let it happen. Try to get the book '' NEVER STAND STILL'' and compare it side by side with the history of con-way. This is not just a job as you have posted in your reply and we and they are getting on with our lives. But I for one had many many freinds that worked for cf and have many freind that work for con-way and I will not stand by and watch history happen again. Sorry my freind for getting long winded but I am not in this just for me, the way I look at it, it is we we we. My last comment is that you thought I was in management, no just a l/h driver like you. Peace.