I wonder how long till your out of a job?(bankrupt pension). Hey I got a idea, lets take your pension now and divide it up with us all! Still like telling people to take our jobs?
Yellow | If I Was Voting Today, I Would......hmmmm
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I wonder how long till your out of a job?(bankrupt pension). Hey I got a idea, lets take your pension now and divide it up with us all! Still like telling people to take our jobs?
Call the Bluff.....SHOWDOWN AT 11th Hour!
Amen Brother, YRC would love to keep bending us over backwards
....Pension contributions, which is the main reason most of us are here are non-existant, and 25% won't cut it....b-4 you know it they'll be back at the table begging 4 more, all the other mumbo jumbo they are asking for is comical at best. Look I know everyone is frustrated but If you vote yes...then you are helping to bury ABF's teamsters because the NMFA will no longer exist and they too will go through the motions as we all have; so let the cards fall where they may. YRC's new slogan STRIKE THREE.......BALLGAME OVER EVERYBODY LOST. Nuff 4 now!
Amen Brother, YRC would love to keep bending us over backwards
....Pension contributions, which is the main reason most of us are here are non-existant, and 25% won't cut it....b-4 you know it they'll be back at the table begging 4 more, all the other mumbo jumbo they are asking for is comical at best. Look I know everyone is frustrated but If you vote yes...then you are helping to bury ABF's teamsters because the NMFA will no longer exist and they too will go through the motions as we all have; so let the cards fall where they may. YRC's new slogan STRIKE THREE.......BALLGAME OVER EVERYBODY LOST. Nuff 4 now!
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the pension is on hold till further notice--
worry about it later
worry about it later
Zollars waived the 8 million dollar buyout (10 million as the ABF guy mistakenly put it) read the press reports.
ABF guys know that there are 2 options. 1 )We vote know , show our big balls and ABF is swamped with freight and good times as YRC went broke and we are all out of work. 2) We vote yes , they are trapped in an untenable position as they will not be able to compete with their wage and benefit structure. They will either be forced into huge concessions or go broke. So , I wonder why all these ABF guys are on here telling us to buck up and stay tough "brothers" ? Ultimately we have to vote to provide for our family. It is a personal choice between you and your family , after the company is dissolved , most of us will never see each other again. You will drown in your own desperation , alone. Nobody is voting because they like this deal , but to keep our jobs in America's worst economic crisis in decades. The POS company will probably go broke anyway. But maybe we can keep it going and attract these new investors , just maybe.
ABF guys know that there are 2 options. 1 )We vote know , show our big balls and ABF is swamped with freight and good times as YRC went broke and we are all out of work. 2) We vote yes , they are trapped in an untenable position as they will not be able to compete with their wage and benefit structure. They will either be forced into huge concessions or go broke. So , I wonder why all these ABF guys are on here telling us to buck up and stay tough "brothers" ? Ultimately we have to vote to provide for our family. It is a personal choice between you and your family , after the company is dissolved , most of us will never see each other again. You will drown in your own desperation , alone. Nobody is voting because they like this deal , but to keep our jobs in America's worst economic crisis in decades. The POS company will probably go broke anyway. But maybe we can keep it going and attract these new investors , just maybe.
Oh , and nobody in America is going to point to you and say , "Well done , Union warrior " ! In reality , America will laugh at you with contempt , pity and disdain , as spoiled buffoons , who voted themselves out of some of the best blue collar jobs in the country during an economic depression.
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Well said. But hey, they'll still have those principals while they sit at home as an ex-teamster. Maybe they can trade those prinicpals for the other 2/3rds of their pension once the PBGC takes over and gives them .30 on the dollar.
At first, I was thinking just like KK, get mad, kick some tail, and see what happens. After the initial rush of testosterone, I settled down and took a long hard look at the positions of both the company and the banks. FACT: YRC is leveraged out, No Real Estate assets, no rolling stock (All the equipment is leased), No Tangibles what so ever. How ever you decide to vote, VOTE. Remember just one thing, be prepared for the worst and be able to accept the outcome. I was laid off in May 09 from YRC, had ZERO results looking for gainful employment, no one wanted to touch me because I was a 50's yr old UNION driver. They either responded that I "Was overqualified for the position" or "didn't meet their hiring requirements", both surreptitious phrases for "You're a Teamster (UNION) Driver and you ain't nothing but Trouble". Also bear in mind that the political landscape of this country is about to change again, hopefully for the better, next month. We might just get lucky, if we don't commit ******* beforehand. Think about it.
For once , I agree with you.
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Wow, looks like YRC alright. The Yes voters anyway.the pension is on hold till further notice--
worry about it later
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I have never felt the need to post anything even though I have been reading the boards for over a year now, but how many concession votes until people realize what will happen as soon as the company gets anothe yes vote? Everyone should realize the pattern. There will be a new COO including layoffs, terminal closings, and transfers far from your home forcing you to move. When does it all end? How many times do we have to be whipped into submission and just take what they throw at us(or they will shut the doors)? Have they made improvements or even been more understanding with all we have given them? People on here are absolutely correct---it is a matter of who you can trust. I think the past track record speaks for itself. You cannot shrink a business into profitability. Sooner or later you need to take a leap of faith and believe that the economy will get better(and it will). But until this company quits pulling the rug out from under the employees(AND THE CUSTOMERS!!!),we are headed for the ultimate fall. Therefore I am voting no and praying that the banks have more patience. They could lose it all or make a huge return. I think the past shows that the economy will recover, but it is the ultimate crap shoot for the banks. The final decision is in THEIR hands,not ours, no matter how we vote.
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So when they come to you with concessions puff out your chest and vote "no" again>>>>Big deal. What do ya think's gonna happen when we're gone should that happen? Do ya think that eventually the ***** are gonna cutthroat it again...Of course they will...and you'll be sll alone...Be gladd ya have the 20,000 or so of us to stand by ya for now....for once it's done....the real race to the bottom starts...with only you to stop it....and you won't stop it either.
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I agree, I will be voting NO and watching the results. I was going to vote yes on this mess until managment placed me on suspension for a minor offense-most non union carriers would never have let it go that far-but here I am getting ready to vote NO and hoping the idiot managers have to clamor and compete with 500 other people for the same job.
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And you are so right there. IT IS NOT OUR FAULT! This is all upper managments fault and we tried to help with two other concession packages which were touted to be the life line to see YRC through this mess they made but it was not so....Vote NO!
