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Steward of the Rock said:
Doc, I agree that is an option if the Local is ignoring clear contract language. But, as Chappey stated, I would only use that as a last resort.
Clown, if your issues are with the pension or healthcare as you have already stated, then a grievance on that in most cases has no merit. When it comes to those two things, the companies only obligation by contract is paying the required weekly or monthly amount required. If you have a problem with a medical claim, your Local would be able to give you the contact info of the healthcare provider, but you would most likely have to contact the provider to get resolution. Same thing with our pension. If your grievances were over contract violations let us know what they were and maybe we can all help you here.
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I agree with you. I doubt he has followed protocol in addressing his complaint. I don't expect him to go to the labor board since I doubt he has taken the first step in this process. The labor board would ask him exactly what you have stated, did he go through this process? If there is a violation of a labor law the board is required to address that.
If he goes through the process & the local ignores his complaint I hope he does go to the labor board. I never saw our local not listen to any grievance or even a complaint. If I thought there was no contract violation I would say so & tell the one complaining to file a grievance & let the committe decide.
I did not like everything about the contract. I tried for several contracts to get language added during contract proposals. One in particular was finally added before I retired. There was some satisfaction for me in that.
 
DCM_Doc said:
I remember another assistant TM like that. He ran off customers by his attitude. He constantly wrote warning letters. He cost the company untold amounts. Finally the hatchet man from company headquarters showed up & allowed him to get his personal items from his office, then escorted him off company property. This also happened to a management type in maintenance.
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I had a manager like that once. We complained and no one would listen. When the division VP came in to walk him out, and then talked to us, he said” I didn’t know it was that bad”. All I could do was shake my head.
 
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DCM_Doc said:
I agree with you. I doubt he has followed protocol in addressing his complaint. I don't expect him to go to the labor board since I doubt he has taken the first step in this process. The labor board would ask him exactly what you have stated, did he go through this process? If there is a violation of a labor law the board is required to address that.
If he goes through the process & the local ignores his complaint I hope he does go to the labor board. I never saw our local not listen to any grievance or even a complaint. If I thought there was no contract violation I would say so & tell the one complaining to file a grievance & let the committe decide.
I did not like everything about the contract. I tried for several contracts to get language added during contract proposals. One in particular was finally added before I retired. There was some satisfaction for me in that.
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Doc, I've had members threaten to go to the labor board, but never did, one did go to the Joint Council and complaint/grievance died their
 
DCM_Doc said:
I never saw our local not listen to any grievance or even a complaint. If I thought there was no contract violation I would say so & tell the one complaining to file a grievance & let the committe decide.
I did not like everything about the contract. I tried for several contracts to get language added during contract proposals. One in particular was finally added before I retired. There was some satisfaction for me in that.
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I agree Doc. We are fortunate to have a Local that actual cares about its Members. The way our president handled the “moving to Memphis” crisis in 2014 was nothing short of genius. Funny how they started changing their tune when he got the state Governor involved. And our BA is a wizard when it comes to settling grievances in our favor. We are truly fortunate my friend.
 
almost13ranch said:
I had a manager like that once. We complained and no one would listen. When the division VP came in to walk him out, and then talked to us, he said” I didn’t know it was that bad”. All I could do was shake my head.
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Not only does a manager like that cost the company in low productivity but their attitude carries over to customer relations. An employee has little choice but to tolerate whoever the company puts in a mangement position but the customer can simply move their freight to a different carrier.
 
DCM_Doc said:
I agree with you. I doubt he has followed protocol in addressing his complaint. I don't expect him to go to the labor board since I doubt he has taken the first step in this process. The labor board would ask him exactly what you have stated, did he go through this process? If there is a violation of a labor law the board is required to address that.
If he goes through the process & the local ignores his complaint I hope he does go to the labor board. I never saw our local not listen to any grievance or even a complaint. If I thought there was no contract violation I would say so & tell the one complaining to file a grievance & let the committe decide.
I did not like everything about the contract. I tried for several contracts to get language added during contract proposals. One in particular was finally added before I retired. There was some satisfaction for me in that.
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Ok I have a question here....I filed a grievance recently and I was told I was right that it is a violation.... even the company man agreed and said he would talk to the TM...it isn't going to go any further than that because my BA said there is no consequences for the company in the contract...I say it should go to panel to set a precedent.... of course my local has also told me there is no book of interpretations also so we could see what was done in the past...
 
ABF381 said:
Ok I have a question here....I filed a grievance recently and I was told I was right that it is a violation.... even the company man agreed and said he would talk to the TM...it isn't going to go any further than that because my BA said there is no consequences for the company in the contract...I say it should go to panel to set a precedent.... of course my local has also told me there is no book of interpretations also so we could see what was done in the past...
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Hopefully everyone involved signed off on the grievance that the company was in violation, that alone sets a precedent and can be used if issue comes up again, make sure you have a copy
 
ABF381 said:
The free hot dogs depends on if you are in front of Smokestack in line or behind him....lmao...
Hot Dogs Bbq GIF by Pit Viper
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Oh my. In a thread about interpretation.
 
ABF381 said:
Ok I have a question here....I filed a grievance recently and I was told I was right that it is a violation.... even the company man agreed and said he would talk to the TM...it isn't going to go any further than that because my BA said there is no consequences for the company in the contract...I say it should go to panel to set a precedent.... of course my local has also told me there is no book of interpretations also so we could see what was done in the past...
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No consequences for violating the contract? Guess I don’t understand. Someone is owed something.
 
White said:
No consequences for violating the contract? Guess I don’t understand. Someone is owed something.
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That is what I have said to my BA...it wouldn't be very much money, but it would be something.... she seems to think that it will get taken care of next contract because there was other proposals under my supplement besides mine about it..
 
ABF381 said:
That is what I have said to my BA...it wouldn't be very much money, but it would be something.... she seems to think that it will get taken care of next contract because there was other proposals under my supplement besides mine about it..
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I'm out of the Locals for a while, but if you trust the BA? I never met one I could, sounds like just kicking the can down the street. Maybe you won't remember about it then.
 
ABF381 said:
That is what I have said to my BA...it wouldn't be very much money, but it would be something.... she seems to think that it will get taken care of next contract because there was other proposals under my supplement besides mine about it..
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What exactly was the violation?
 
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