You can file on it but you won’t win. YRC has been doing it for years and so has ABF. Has been filed on multiple times in major halls including 710 and 41I am hearing ABF is giving sign on bonuses of 6000.00 to new drivers, Stay on 2 years or pay back. Seems to me we should be given a bonus as well. Can we file on this?
thx.You can file on it but you won’t win. YRC has been doing it for years and so has ABF. Has been filed on multiple times in major halls including 710 and 41
Seem to have a lot of money to throw at new hires. Hope they have the same kind of money come contract time to give back to the people who got them to where they are now....We have heard $7500.00 and if they are laid off they don't have to pay it back.
Casuals too? Heck... I may have to come out of retirement!!We have heard $7500.00 and if they are laid off they don't have to pay it back.
Casuals too? Heck... I may have to come out of retirement!!
Just a rumor, but I have been told by someone @ the Fort that the bonus amount you would have to pay is larger than the National Debit. von. PS No way I could leave that one alone.I'd come out of retirement for a $7500 bonus I don't have to re-pay!
Unfortunately,....in a ..."pre-emptive strike".....ABF management has informed me that I would have to give THEM a Bonus,....before they allowed me back....
Price has not been determined yet.........
I'd come out of retirement for a $7500 bonus I don't have to re-pay!
Unfortunately,....in a ..."pre-emptive strike".....ABF management has informed me that I would have to give THEM a Bonus,....before they allowed me back....
Price has not been determined yet.........
Well, those two monuments are close to each other. But, she’d have one helluva pee stream to reach it!I wouldn't come out of retirement to see The Statue Of Liberty pee over the Brooklyn Bridge!
i talked to a new hire 2 days ago. he was given 6,000,,, 3800 after taxes.. Seems odd to me that all contractual employees dont fall under the same compensation rules.. So if abf hits its operating numbers, we get bonus, they can give bonuses to some, not others? Where in the contract does it say anything about bonus pay? I think this could be an issue but am convinced it was "negotiated" for something none of us will benefit from.
NYFD could 'handle' that. von.Well, those two monuments are close to each other. But, she’d have one helluva pee stream to reach it!
Yes. Them and their...hoses.NYFD could 'handle' that. von.
The thing about new-hires is that when ABF makes a offer of employment,......they are not under contract as they haven’t fulfilled contractual time limits for seniority. Therefore,.....as they technically aren’t quite employees.........under contract,......ABF can offer them anything/nothing/something on an individual basis,.....as kind of like a “pre-agreement”.
The minute the new-hire becomes an employee,......casual, full-time, on-call.......then ABF must apply all compensation unilaterally,.......to everyone.
This is why you don’t see ABF offer existing casuals sign-on bonuses. That offer could be grieved to be retroactively applied to all employees. The casuals have been “hired” and are now under contractual rules.
Personally, I think the problems with hiring are self-created by management. Outdated casual rules with no benefits,.......pension plans under attack......cut-rate pay packages while increasing management bonuses......
None of these things make a carrier more.......”attractive “ .....than their non-Union competitors,......who can fluctuate pay and benefits at a moment’s notice to reflect driver availability........
(And lower it when it behooves them in the event technology makes some drivers redundant....)
The sad thing to remember canary is that seniority employees voted to throw casuals under the bus and leave them without benefits. Bugs me that someone gets to vote on something that doesn't affect them in the least. I'm sure you know that casuals years ago were paid the same, and if they worked the required days, got the same benefits as seniority employees.
The sad thing to remember canary is that seniority employees voted to throw casuals under the bus and leave them without benefits. Bugs me that someone gets to vote on something that doesn't affect them in the least. I'm sure you know that casuals years ago were paid the same, and if they worked the required days, got the same benefits as seniority employees.
At one time part-timers were paid a little more because they didn't have benefits.
Not sure if that applied to casuals.
Alot of that post is true....but....if there were more union companies around you could float from company to company to get your benefits, kind of hard to do that now....last time I looked guys voted on the whole contract not just parts of it, if it was desirable then they would vote yes if not vote no.....not to get political here at all but isn't that what we do when we vote for a president? I know I don't agree with any candidate on every issue so I pick the one who best represents my views....The sad thing to remember canary is that seniority employees voted to throw casuals under the bus and leave them without benefits. Bugs me that someone gets to vote on something that doesn't affect them in the least. I'm sure you know that casuals years ago were paid the same, and if they worked the required days, got the same benefits as seniority employees.
Alot of that post is true....but....if there were more union companies around you could float from company to company to get your benefits, kind of hard to do that now....last time I looked guys voted on the whole contract not just parts of it, if it was desirable then they would vote yes if not vote no.....not to get political here at all but isn't that what we do when we vote for a president? I know I don't agree with any candidate on every issue so I pick the one who best represents my views....