This is a job killer

yrc321

Active Member
Johnny and Pete both worked for YRC. Johnny was a senior man with 27 yrs and Pete had in almost 12 yrs in . johnny told Pete that this was not
good and to vote no, but Pete disagreed and voted yes. Well the yes vote passed through again and the teamsters gave up everything they worked for but it was for the good of the company Then one day Pete got laid off and wondered how can this be. A couple of months went by and Pete was called back but not as a full time worker but as a 4hr part-timer and his new start time was 3pm he would come in and they would send him out to make pick ups
but you see the pick ups Pete is making is the pick ups that allowed johnny to make over time so now johnny doesn't get over time anymore and now him and Pete are no longer friends.So now the moral of the story is they are going to screw us AGAIN...And the loses will be greater for all workers and your so called Pension fund that doesn't exist
part timers don't help the fund and don't accrue any benefits for them selves.
so if you want to become a part-timer VOTE YES
 

SoCalkid

Banned
These guy's that vote yes to this crap are the same ones that are saying yes dear at home while they are getting a ear full.
 

cdlguy

Senior Member
Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.
 

yrc321

Active Member
Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.[/QUOTE



ok lets see 20 dollars an hr for 4 hrs a day equals 80 dollars a day times 5 days equals 400 dollars minus 150 in taxes equals 250 take home a week ..nice ... I VOTE NO and go on unemployment for 650 a week for two years and get something under the table ..if you cant find something in two years then thats your problem.unlike you some people have a plan B
 
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crazy

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650 a week for UE ,wow ,you got a room to rent, here in NY tops is 405 a week ,that wont go very far....
 

series60

Well-Known Member
Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.

Either way - it's going to be the same outcome. BUT - the freight will go somewhere.
 

electraglideatl

Well-Known Member
Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.

I agree on just about everything except one..........Supposedly there are descrimination laws that are suppose to protect all.........If you were Union a company can not and should not pass you up on a job application.........If everyone is having that problem everyone should get a lawyer and that hopefully will help...........nuff said
 

Bony Fingers

Active Member
I agree on just about everything except one..........Supposedly there are descrimination laws that are suppose to protect all.........If you were Union a company can not and should not pass you up on a job application.........If everyone is having that problem everyone should get a lawyer and that hopefully will help...........nuff said

And if you can afford a lawyer and just maybe win the case, this new company will find any and every thing they can on you and let you go. What then? Another lawyer?
 

turboj

Banned
Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.


Stop trying to scare everybody. Many forclosures are on hold and your fubo won't let anything happen. Oh yeah, you left out the part where Pete and Johnny still had their balls! Unlike the yes voters who got their last remaining ball from the first and second yes votes neutered.
 

cdlguy

Senior Member
ok lets see 20 dollars an hr for 4 hrs a day equals 80 dollars a day times 5 days equals 400 dollars minus 150 in taxes equals 250 take home a week ..nice ... I VOTE NO and go on unemployment for 650 a week for two years and get something under the table ..if you cant find something in two years then thats your problem.unlike you some people have a plan B

Just because 'some' live in cities where they have the option of a plan B, not all do. Some cities, this was the only high paying job. And I don't know where you live to draw $650 ue, but you're damn lucky to live there; other states don't pay that. And maybe, some guys don't want to sit home & draw a check; they'd like to have work & feel some pride in themselves. And maybe, they have a very sick child, or spouse, that all their savings have gone to pay for their treatment, & they're hanging on by the skin of their teeth. I know a lot of guys like that. Just be grateful you're not one of them....yet.
 

cdlguy

Senior Member
But if 50,000 ex-teamsters complain then this will get the attention of the media for sure

Have you watched the media lately? According to them, the unions are the downfall of the whole economy. The reason for the bankruptcy of the auto companies, & others. They don't care. And, when you're laid off & wondering how to pay for everything when your savings runs out, a lawyer is the last thing you can afford.
 

cdlguy

Senior Member
Pete & Johnny still had their balls; too bad they couldn't afford insurance & chemo when one of them got cancer in one of them. I'm not trying to scare anybody; I'm just keeping it real. That's many laid off guys stories.

We haven't even discussed Billy's story. Billy has worked on the dock for 15 years; he doesn't have a CDL because he couldn't qualify for it medically. He thanks God every day for a job that allows him to care for his family, have good insurance & a possible pension. But he's confused on how to vote, because if he votes no & stands up for what's right, he'll be lucky to find another job, maybe at $10 or $11 an hour, with no benefits. But he'll still have his balls. If he votes yes, he gets to keep his high paying dock job & insurance, with a possibility of a pension, food on the table, roof over their heads, heat in the winter. More than he'd be able to do at another job. So what should he do? It's a real dilemma.
 

Free Dumb

Well-Known Member
Have you watched the media lately? According to them, the unions are the downfall of the whole economy. The reason for the bankruptcy of the auto companies, & others. They don't care. And, when you're laid off & wondering how to pay for everything when your savings runs out, a lawyer is the last thing you can afford.

They are mainly complaining about the government union jobs. State school administrators that have $100,000 pensions.
 

turboj

Banned
Pete & Johnny still had their balls; too bad they couldn't afford insurance & chemo when one of them got cancer in one of them. I'm not trying to scare anybody; I'm just keeping it real. That's many laid off guys stories.

We haven't even discussed Billy's story. Billy has worked on the dock for 15 years; he doesn't have a CDL because he couldn't qualify for it medically. He thanks God every day for a job that allows him to care for his family, have good insurance & a possible pension. But he's confused on how to vote, because if he votes no & stands up for what's right, he'll be lucky to find another job, maybe at $10 or $11 an hour, with no benefits. But he'll still have his balls. If he votes yes, he gets to keep his high paying dock job & insurance, with a possibility of a pension, food on the table, roof over their heads, heat in the winter. More than he'd be able to do at another job. So what should he do? It's a real dilemma.


I guess what you're saying is "welcome to the people's republic of america"! If you keep giving them their way you won't have to worry about any benefits because you'll be a serf and be calling the chinese brother instead of another teamster. And there is no pension payment, none, nichts, nadda. They'll never put a dime in again. Vote yaz for da massa and be in a non union job with dues. Makes sense to me, not!
 

teamguy

Active Member
electraglide- no disrespect, I have awide glide- the media wont care because theyll only report that 'werent we the guys who voted to close our own company down? " you wont get **** for help..hey, at lwast you can sell your scoot to make it by
 

Keepingon

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Or, Pete & Johnny voted No, & on Jan 1 in the dead of winter, Johnny went to work to find a padlock on the gate. When it came time to get his paycheck direct deposited into his account, there's no money because YRC filed for bankruptcy. Pete & Johnny saw each other in the unemployment line, both wondering how they're going to afford to feed their families & keep their houses they just bought & can't sell because of the housing disaster. Then they see each other down at the union hall when they're finding out that they can't afford the COBRA coverage for insurance. They talk on the phone all the time, comparing notes about how many applications they've put in but no answers. How they have perfect driving records, perfect attendance records, tons of experience, etc, but the one thing all the companies that are hiring don't want is ex-union people. Then their ue runs out, & they have to take a job making $14 an hour and pay $250 a month for insurance that has an $8000 deductible, so they pray their kids don't get sick. Then they get the letter from the pension fund, saying you're now an orphan, so you don't get the pension you had plans for. Now they have to work at a crappy non-union job til they're 80. And they lived non-happily ever after.

Ask a lot of laid off guys...this is their story & their lives right now.

If you go by this scenario, Johnny and Pete were week sons of bitches anyway and shouldn't have been teamsters to begin with. People come to this country that can't even speak english and make a living. Man up, The world don't end here.
 

turboj

Banned
electraglide- no disrespect, I have awide glide- the media wont care because theyll only report that 'werent we the guys who voted to close our own company down? " you wont get **** for help..hey, at lwast you can sell your scoot to make it by

Do you have to put a 3x3 foot piece of cardboard under your Harley like Electraglide so it won't leak oil in the driveway and pi$$ the wife off?:biglaugh:
 

jimmy g

Kook
Premium
Guys- CDL isn't one w/o balls, or a non-qualified jerk with no hope of a future. He's a stand-up for the little guy ex-steward who has already moved to another good job. As usual, he's putting others first, and is taking the heat for those less fortunate. You could learn a lot listening to him. There are some that will Never get a decent job after this; AND- if I understand the implications of the Pension- ... It could be possible that when YRC closes- YRC, ABF AND some Teamsters Locals collapse with the Fund- and current retirees now collecting 3500 could find themselves collecting 1/3 that - from the Pension Guarantee Board (hold your breath- it's broke too)
 

yrc321

Active Member
Just because 'some' live in cities where they have the option of a plan B, not all do. Some cities, this was the only high paying job. And I don't know where you live to draw $650 ue, but you're damn lucky to live there; other states don't pay that. And maybe, some guys don't want to sit home & draw a check; they'd like to have work & feel some pride in themselves. And maybe, they have a very sick child, or spouse, that all their savings have gone to pay for their treatment, & they're hanging on by the skin of their teeth. I know a lot of guys like that. Just be grateful you're not one of them....yet.


Please save the sob story .. you don't know my situation,, for crying out loud i work for yrc how well off could i be? and besides i live in NJ ,,the highest property tax the country .. stop falling for the scare tactics ... have some self respect ..there is a life after this dump.. no fear here
 
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