They are owned by UPS, a company that had almost 50 billion in revenue in 2010. That's ten times what Con-way brought in. I wished I worked for UPS.
They are owned by UPS, a company that had almost 50 billion in revenue in 2010. That's ten times what Con-way brought in. I wished I worked for UPS.
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Top two meaning two of the top companies ,or meaning THE top two companies?
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Willing to hear what they have to say but unwilling to attach my name to anything formal....
I am all for the union. Enough is enough. When I got hired I was told that "CWX" was run just like a union outfit without the union. We did not need one then because we were treated well and the fear that we would organize was enough to keep the higher ups from treating us poorly. Things have gone from bad to worse and I am seriously loosing my faith that the people who run the show care about there drivers. As a matter of fact, I have lost my faith that things will get better in the future. If we as drivers cannot stand up for ourselves as a solid,unified,and dedicated group then we will only get what the higher powers deem fit to give us. I was making a delivery to a construction site and the guy unloading me had a sticker on his hard hat which stated "united we bargain-divided we beg" and a light went on in my head. I thought, thats us, thats what we need to do.No more taking things away without asking us first, No more annual increases in health care costs, No more rolling out policy after policy without prior notice. NO MORE. I hope that terminals start organizing and I hope they get to mine because I have had enough.I will get off the soap box now and let someone else have it.
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id comment on this issue...but its not my job. sign up for it....nah.
Tom, the principal is getting his paddle out,you had better come clean!
It's going to be real interesting to see how this play's out. Radman is 1000% correct , that was a big part in the foundation laid to bring Con-way to where it is today. As they keep pulling away block by block the interstructure is crumbling. This all started the day that Detter was no longer at the helm. I was a union member and steward in the seventie's when it was still halfway strong but on the decline, due to the very fact that guy's like Detter knew exactly how to treat their employee's fairly and with respect. It is my belief should the emploee's of a co. like Con-way or Fed-ex vote to bring in the 3rd party, whichever one goe's first the other will follow. This would be the cat's meow for the union and with that many people banding together their voice's will be heard. The union today with the fraction of brother's and sister's that it once had has been torn down bit by bit, but it would be rebuildable if the right leadership is put into place. I was very proud and walked tall when i belonged, but not once did i ever slack. I did the same for Con-way in the 20 yrs. i spent there.Now that I am at that pension drawing point I could not be more disappointed in a Co. I too was led to believe that i would have a sizeable amount of money if i would stay on board, well I did and though I am thankfull for what i get it is a small fraction of what i was led to believe. What is hard for me to take is that these top management people are awarded 100's of thousand's of dollar's to run a co. and fail and still walk away with hundred's of thousand's after only a few yrs. I spent or alot of us spent half of our live's help making a co. succeed only to have it taken away, What is wrong with this picture?
I cannot sit here and be idle, I spent 40 yrs. of my life on both side's of this fence and I care alot for each and every one of you who chose this profession to be in as you and we are a unique group of people who can make a big difference in America and the reward's that this industry can afford each and every one of you. Remember in your decision making that their is no way you should go through life feeling threatened or intimidated every day. You have to speak up and be heard and there is strength in numbers whichever way you decide to go. I will now jump down off my soapbox with radman and to the floor.That sticker on that hardhat say's it all, I love it thank's for shareing radman.(Next)
I cannot sit here and be idle, I spent 40 yrs. of my life on both side's of this fence and I care alot for each and every one of you who chose this profession to be in as you and we are a unique group of people who can make a big difference in America and the reward's that this industry can afford each and every one of you. Remember in your decision making that their is no way you should go through life feeling threatened or intimidated every day. You have to speak up and be heard and there is strength in numbers whichever way you decide to go. I will now jump down off my soapbox with radman and to the floor.That sticker on that hardhat say's it all, I love it thank's for shareing radman.(Next)
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So what stops the company from liquidating the freight side and sinking all of the profits into the truckload side?
The big boys and stockholders still profit, and they get rid of all the hourly employees in the trucks, and keep all of their mileage drivers. That, and they get rid of something like 283 service centers, no more building or forklift upkeep, no more propane purchases, etc.
I truly believe that is one of the reasons they bought out CFI, they knew eventually enough employees would get fed up with the "enhancements" that they were planning, that they would eventually have to deal with the threat of organization among the ranks of the drivers.
Stotlar and his buddies would still have jobs, would we?
The big boys and stockholders still profit, and they get rid of all the hourly employees in the trucks, and keep all of their mileage drivers. That, and they get rid of something like 283 service centers, no more building or forklift upkeep, no more propane purchases, etc.
I truly believe that is one of the reasons they bought out CFI, they knew eventually enough employees would get fed up with the "enhancements" that they were planning, that they would eventually have to deal with the threat of organization among the ranks of the drivers.
Stotlar and his buddies would still have jobs, would we?
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The freight side generates more thatn 60% of that 5 billion dollar revenue. How are you going to explain to your shareholders that your going to cut their stock price in half?? (which is what would happen) If it were to come to it, and the BOD felt the employees needed some kind of contract, then they would put somebody in charge that would work to have that done. It's not about Doug S., not about you or me.. it's about money. They'll do whatever it takes to keep that money flowing..
Unfortunately, yes, I would support it and so would about 1/2 the people in our shop. Recent events in maintenance would have gone quite differently if they had to deal with a union contract. I never thought I'd support the idea of a union, but something has to change.
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Man.....I see(hypothetically) a padlock on the front gate coming real soon.
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I don't doubt that the freight side generates that much revenue for the company, but I'm not talking about revenue, I'm talking about profit, there is a difference.
I would wager that the freight side has about 75%-85% of the Con-Way families expenses too. The truckload side has a few hundred trucks and trailers, the Menlo side has even less expenses, while the freight side has thousands of trucks and trailers, 283+ service centers, (read buildings to maintain, property taxes and utilities to pay), thousands of forklifts to maintain and keep stocked with propane.
I don't believe that the stockholders would have a problem with Dougie and the gang shutting the freight side down. They could more than make up their revenue losses if they had fewer expenses. The BOD and stockholders are more concerned about profit than revenue.
Besides I have heard several times from upper management that they would close us down, rather than work under the scrutiny of a union. The first SIC that goes union will be shutdown and the rest of the company will lose it's desire to loose their jobs....Just my opinion....
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I only skimmed the first post. I've read no other responses. With that, "f" your union, your organizers, your BA's, and anyone else who wants to tell me what to do, who to listen to, and who to pay. Leave us alone, d-bags. Find someone else to replace all the money you're going to lose from YRC.
If you were to close down the freight side.... there would be a LOT of money lost. Who would you sell the stuff to?? Freight side is now profitable again. We're not going anywhere. Sold maybe, but not shut down..
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UPSF did go union and yes we did get union dues. There are a few things we didn't get also. We did not get our pay cut. We did not get vacation time cut. We did not get our pension messed with or lose any sick days. There are a few other things we got in addition to union dues such as a raise evey six months just like the contract calls for. We also now have a decent greivance process that we didn't have before we started paying dues. I'm an old Overnite man and was never for the union and am still not crazy about it ,but they have not been the big boogey men that they had always been portrayed to be.
You guys are getting riled up from a post placed on here by a guy who has already been busted by the site owner as having 2 TB accounts. If the company closed it's doors this morning, many of you who cry about the company screwing you over would be scrambling to find a job that pays a fraction of what your current job pays, and a job where your manual labor to pay ratio is as low as it is now. Enough complaining, count your blessings and get back to work.
I believe that labor unions aren't part the solution, they are part of the problem. If you really want to fix things, then educate yourselves as to how our govt works, our history as a nation, American exceptionalism, and vote your conscience.
I believe that labor unions aren't part the solution, they are part of the problem. If you really want to fix things, then educate yourselves as to how our govt works, our history as a nation, American exceptionalism, and vote your conscience.
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