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highspeeds said:
I strongly disagree. Voting a union will not improve this situation. The union THREAT certainly has improved our situation. But to actually vote them in is not helping anything. In my opinion.
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voting in the union WILL improve the situation, thats why it keeps happening. there is no union threat without forward movement.
 
highspeeds said:
His line has been that he is older and wiser now. He feels guilty for not having said and done more in the past. Now that he has nothing to lose he feels free to say whatever he would like. So he wants us to all put our livelyhoods on the line for the betterment of his conscience.
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why will your job be on the line? is this that crystal ball in your work bag again?
 
CCXdriver said:
Why not? Are they afraid of a little sacrifice?

I had a job when I came to Con-Way. I wanted something better, so I went out and found something better. People leave their homeland to find a better life, why can't anyone that wants a union leave Con-Way to go to YRC?
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why not organize conway? because YOU disagree? you are free to leave, just like you say they are.
 
Bankrupt said:
Please, tell me why you say Laredo did not contribute to the corporation's recent changes.

Highspeeds, you liked it so perhaps you can help me understand it as well.
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I actually did, it the post you quoted.

But I'll spell it out. Con-Way is not a small operation where the owner can say "give everyone a raise starting January". Plans take time, there are meetings, there's a BOD that has to approve the plan, they only meet every so often, etc.

I'm not saying the threat of unionism didn't have anything to do with, knows? I'm just doubting to outcome in LLA did.
 
highspeeds said:
Out one corner of their mouth it's worth everything to fight for. Out the other corner of that mouth.... filling out an application and driving a different colored truck is simply to much to ask.
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what, just to placate you? when your barn votes in the teamsters, feel free to leave!
 
buffalobill said:
why not organize conway? because YOU disagree? you are free to leave, just like you say they are.
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Because you're spinning your wheels. It's not going to happen. Teamsters don't organize freight companies successfully, especially one the size of Con-Way.

I'll see you in a year or so when the decerts start happening.

(BTW, who do you work for again?)
 
CCXdriver said:
Because you're spinning your wheels. It's not going to happen. Teamsters don't organize freight companies successfully, especially one the size of Con-Way.

I'll see you in a year or so when the decerts start happening.
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they dont? how did abf, yrc, holland, and ups end up in the union? the companies called up the union and wanted a contract?
 
CCXdriver said:
I actually did, it the post you quoted.

But I'll spell it out. Con-Way is not a small operation where the owner can say "give everyone a raise starting January". Plans take time, there are meetings, there's a BOD that has to approve the plan, they only meet every so often, etc.

I'm not saying the threat of unionism didn't have anything to do with, knows? I'm just doubting to outcome in LLA did.
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Oh.
So, your further explanation makes me understand that it takes at least two years for Conway to make sudden, reactionary and abrupt changes.
Fair 'nuff
 
Bankrupt said:
Oh.
So, your further explanation makes me understand that it takes at least two years for Conway to make sudden, reactionary and abrupt changes.
Fair 'nuff
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Didn't you just love that? The BOD makes damned sure their pay and bennies are squared away EVERY meeting. Labor? They push that to the back.
 
222lifer said:
Didn't you just love that? The BOD makes damned sure their pay and bennies are squared away EVERY meeting. Labor? They push that to the back.
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Actually, don't the union leaders do the exact same thing? Didn't Hoffa promise to cap officers pay at 150,000/year? How many have passed that? How much does Hoffa make and how did he weasel around the teamsters constitution to get it? Unions are a business, they have there own "Fat Cats". It kind of the pot calling the kettle black.

If company greed is an argument for a union, then there needs to be a union for the union members to protect them from the union greed.
 
Grape Ape said:
Actually, don't the union leaders do the exact same thing? Didn't Hoffa promise to cap officers pay at 150,000/year? How many have passed that? How much does Hoffa make and how did he weasel around the teamsters constitution to get it? Unions are a business, they have there own "Fat Cats". It kind of the pot calling the kettle black.

If company greed is an argument for a union, then there needs to be a union for the union members to protect them from the union greed.
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Why don't you post a list from the TDU site? How many of them wear different hats? How many have been taken down for corruption? Post some facts and let's have at it.
 
Bankrupt said:
Please, tell me why you say Laredo did not contribute to the corporation's recent changes.

Highspeeds, you liked it so perhaps you can help me understand it as well.
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I he won't his new friend will....lol seems like his fellow followers took a life boat & left him at the helm....
 
CCXdriver said:
You got me, I should have said "anymore".

So, when were those victories?
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Lol
Hopefully you will revise it again to "not lightening fast".
Units from both Conway and FedEx just petitioned and were awarded a vote by the NLRB in the last week.
Are you going to argue that successful organizational efforts are not taking place as we speak?
If you did not fear union success, then why would you be wasting your time on here trying to stop those organizational efforts?
If you are right, then consider another hobby outside of truckingboards.com.
If you are wrong then of course you will want to protect your loyal and beloved corporation. But please bring better arguments to the table.
Sit down. BYOB and go ahead and smoke the vegetable matter of your choice. Smoking doesn't bother me.
 
Grape Ape said:
Actually, don't the union leaders do the exact same thing? Didn't Hoffa promise to cap officers pay at 150,000/year? How many have passed that? How much does Hoffa make and how did he weasel around the teamsters constitution to get it? Unions are a business, they have there own "Fat Cats". It kind of the pot calling the kettle black.

If company greed is an argument for a union, then there needs to be a union for the union members to protect them from the union greed.
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Here's a revelation; people are human. Everywhere you go there are humans. They're not perfect and if I did not accept that in my life, I would live a paralyzing existence.
That being said, I am rocksolid in my decision that the union is our only corrective action against a publicly held corporation that has made it crystal clear; ethics and loyalty are a distasteful option.
And corrective action is necessary.
 
CCXdriver said:
You must be right, since I'm not working for a union company, I don't know anything. Union members are so much smarter than non-union members, it's a good thing you're here to help me.

Yeah, I know that's what you think. But believe it or not, there are some pretty smart Con-Way employees, that don't need someone to speak for them. And yes, I do know what percentage my wages were compared to my overall compensation.
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Obviously your new on here, I retired from Con-Way. I saw the decline of Con-Way over the years. I don't claim to be smarter, just wiser. You are right there are a lot of smart people at Con-Way, they're trying to unionize.
 
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