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I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't want anyone to lose their pension dollars but I want a raise and vacation. I also wonder if something like this might put more pressure on the government to legislatively fix what they legislatively broke. I wonder what is in the rest of the tentative agreement?
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't want anyone to lose their pension dollars but I want a raise and vacation. I also wonder if something like this might put more pressure on the government to legislatively fix what they legislatively broke. I wonder what is in the rest of the tentative agreement?
I know how I feel Homesick... all for one and one for all... they have already divided us enough. We have to remember... it is us... the ABF Teamsters that are holding most of the cards this time around. IMO... if Judy has her way again... ABF Freight will end up being just a shell of it's former self in the near future.
We must all remember...the raises and the vacations benefit the company just as much as the ABF Teamsters... don't let them fool into giving up something in return for something that benefits them just as much.
True, wong....but this is where we turn it around. Right here, right now! Any improvements that we get is gonna benefit YRC next year when that contract is up. Keep that in mind as well.1st off not taking sides here, but when YRCW only pays in 25% of the older rate , ABF does have a right to be angry and want a sweet heart deal to like YRCW gets ! And think about it all these pay giveback & pension cuts problems started because YRCW did it first ...............
I agree with everything you say! Then I think of YRC. I don't fully agee with wrongway but he does have a point. And YRC doesn't seem to be having labor problems; their turnover rate may be up but they are able to hire people quicker than ABF. And most of all, I want a raise, I want better working conditions, I want more vacation time, I want more seniority (more employees with less seniority) and better shifts/runs. These are my main concerns, not my pension. And yes I want a pension but I'm also saving in my IRA and 401k so I can afford less of a pension. But I'm not willing to reject those teamsters who made the teamsters what it is. I would like equal sacrifice with retired teamsters too.I know how I feel Homesick... all for one and one for all... they have already divided us enough. We have to remember... it is us... the ABF Teamsters that are holding most of the cards this time around. IMO... if Judy has her way again... ABF Freight will end up being just a shell of it's former self in the near future.
We must all remember...the raises and the vacations benefit the company just as much as the ABF Teamsters... don't let them fool into giving up something in return for something that benefits them just as much.
1st off not taking sides here, but when YRCW only pays in 25% of the older rate , ABF does have a right to be angry and want a sweet heart deal to like YRCW gets ! And think about it all these pay giveback & pension cuts problems started because YRCW did it first ...............
Really good pointsI agree... ABF did have that right to be angry wongway... and I didn't blame them one bit back in 2010... that is until 2013 when the IBT offered up the ABF Teamsters in exchange for that lawsuit to go away. And they took it... after all... they didn't care where the money came from... the IBT and YRC... or the ABF Teamsters themselves... just as long as they got a piece of that pie. Well... no more pie for them because right now... it's the ABF Teamsters that are angry and we just don't give a damn how angry ABF or even the IBT will be when the tentative agreement is turned down if it turns out to be the way it's starting to look now.
I was pissed at the IBT for bringing the pension deal to the table in the first place back in 2009 and the YRC Teamsters for accepting the pension deal.
Really good points
Agree , it is time to turn it around & for YRC in 2019, it's time to "Pay the Rate or Lock the Gate " , Enough of us doing all the giving and time for Driver's to stop being Yes SHEEP , time to stand tall & fight back !True, wong....but this is where we turn it around. Right here, right now! Any improvements that we get is gonna benefit YRC next year when that contract is up. Keep that in mind as well.
Agree, and yes the YRC Teamster "SHEEP" let it happen and IBT for letting it happen, so in 2019 it's "Pay the Rate or Lock the Gate " ........................I was pissed at the IBT for bringing the pension deal to the table in the first place back in 2009 and the YRC Teamsters for accepting the pension deal.
Agree, and yes the YRC Teamster "SHEEP" let it happen and IBT for letting it happen, so in 2019 it's "Pay the Rate or Lock the Gate " ........................
Turncoat..what do you think? As for me...pay a good rate or lock the gate..as I have already posted, the local FedEx mgr (one of our ex supv would hire me in a minute!ABF's.......Excuse me,....ArcBest's... position, both this contract and last contract, has been a race to the bottom with their "designated" competitor,...YRC. Cuts to pension contributions will only exacerbate the demise of defined-benefit pensions . Once they're gone,.......you'll never get them back.......
Let's....remind...the negotiators the reason Congress voted a permanent 15% tax cut for the private sector,......was so that the WORKERS could share in the largesse of a bigger profit base.
ANY removal of any sort of benefit just adds to the corporate bottom line ....at OUR expense.
And,.........this does not even begin to address the driver shortage issue. The companies do everything they can to deflect away the fact that,......anyone with a CDL,....especially with a HAZ-MAT endorsement,....is a SCARCE commodity.
In business,....you pay DEARLY for a scarce commodity....
How Ernie and Co. can even contemplate stepping any of our benefits backward,....is beyond me. Let alone not coming up with equitable pay raises that bring us up to the NON-UNION level,....not the YRC level.
Trucking industry across the board,...is looking at the ABF contract as a bellwhether,.....as to whether the IBT is going to play footsie with the companies again,.....or whether they're going to live up to their chartered purpose,....and negotiate for the rank-and-file,...for a change.....
I thought the "rumor" was that we were going to...."like"....what's in this tentative agreement.
Once again,...it seems like ArcBest is going to roll the dice, and bet on the gullibility of it's employees........