nounionfool,wondering what your rant about another member has anything to do with this topic?
Not to be sarcastic to your tie-raid.
As with your posts you seem to present yourself as a very highly intelligent individual.
So on topic,do you have any solutions to resolve our failing Teamster pension plan?
You may call it a rant...tirade or anything else you desire but I call it stating my opinion after what I have been observing from this member's posts. In my opinion, his main objective is either to disrupt this forum or to just play games because he spews nothing but rhetoric and nonsense. You may try and deny that a man's character and integrity doesn't come in to play when having an argument or debate all you want but the simple fact of the matter is that it has everything to do with the matter at hand. Just like being a witness at a trial, credibility is the main issue on any topic. You destroy their credibility and you destroy their testimony or argument, whichever the case may be. You also can't reason with anyone who wishes to be unreasonable, just like you can't avoid a collision with anyone who is determined to collide with you. So, to answer your question about what this has to do with this topic, it has plenty to do with the topic. Not to be sarcastic, but why did you feel the need to make this reply and what did you expect to get accomplished?
As for your remark about me presenting myself as a highly intelligent individual, that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm just an average man that actually thinks what he wants to get accomplished and which words I use before I just start typing or opening my mouth. One had best
prepare oneself if he wishes to stand up for what he believes in because there will be those who will be out to destroy his integrity and credibility and that is a fact. Again, not to be sarcastic,which in my opinion, is exactly what you have tried to do here.
So, getting on topic with your question about me having any solutions on how to resolve our failing Teamster pension plan. Yet, once again, not to be sarcastic but in my opinion that's a pretty lame and premature question to ask before investigating why and how the fund got in the
predicament in the first place because there's no doubt in my mind that the fund fell victim to fraud, irresponsibility and lack of oversight. Only when and if those culprits are revealed can anyone even attempt to come up with any viable solutions to right the wrong. That is, unless one is foolish enough to actually believe the word of thieves and liars. Then by all means, just rollover and accept getting screwed because it will be well deserved.
I have been reading your posts and realize that you have "that something is better than nothing" mentality and just rollover and accept what you are told and live with it but as you see there are many who believe as I and won't just rollover, or the members of the CSPF would be receiving those cuts as we speak. So, just because you choose to rollover and accept things the way they are without question, first by pouting and then uttering a quiet moan once in awhile about your 31% reduction, doesn't mean everyone else will. Not to be sarcastic but that's the difference between you and I, someone may knock me down but I will at least try to get back up, not just lie there and moan. So you see, that bully may end up getting my lunch money but he will have to earn it, and earn it he will, everyday. And to me, there's no shame in that.
Remember, you were the one that asked me a question and was wondering about my so called rant and tirade so I just answered you as courteous as I possibly could while remaining honest and sincere.
In this day and age, how anyone can be so naïve and complaisant when it comes to the corruption in our government to the wall street bankers is beyond me. Maybe you could try and explain that one to me. You want to talk about being counterproductive, why are so many so upset at those who just wish to keep fighting for what they have earned?
Oh, and by the way, there isn't a snowball's chance that the topic of this thread would ever come to fruition but then again, wishful thinking never hurt anyone. But what will hurt is not speaking up and just accepting corruption as the norm.
I will end this post by giving my thanks and appreciation to all those retirees and active members in the CSPF who are fighting to save their pensions. If it weren't for you, the pension cuts would already have been in place. That's one thing they didn't count on, so many still having what it takes to stand up and actually fight for something they earned instead of just rolling over! The spirit of Teamsters past is not forgotten, at least not yet.