Lets take some of the millions of taxpayer dollars that are already supporting illegal aliens, and help American citizens for a change. Imo.So in other words this looks like the taxpayers would be bailing out the pension plans.
You have a good point but no one is going to make individuals with 401k's whole. It needs to be all or none on bailouts. The problems with the pension plans have been known for decades. Hoping a Democratic Socialist comes to the rescue has far greater long term consequences than using the PBGC which is what that agency is for. Both my retired In-laws pensions went bankrupt and both are administered by the PBGC now. IMO this is what should happen with these pensions.Lets take some of the millions of taxpayer dollars that are already supporting illegal aliens, and help American citizens for a change. Imo.
I agree,where is money going to come from to pay us our pensions?Wh
You have a good point but no one is going to make individuals with 401k's whole. It needs to be all or none on bailouts. The problems with the pension plans have been known for decades. Hoping a Democratic Socialist comes to the rescue has far greater long term consequences than using the PBGC which is what that agency is for. Both my retired In-laws pensions went bankrupt and both are administered by the PBGC now. IMO this is what should happen with these pensions.
The money to help American pensions is already out there. Millions of our tax dollars are being spent to help illegal aliens already in our country, illegally. Let's start using our tax dollars to help American citizens.I agree,where is money going to come from to pay us our pensions?
The money is going to come from the same place the money came from to bail out Wall Street bankers in 2008 , who were " too big to fail"....and the same place where the money is already being set aside for the new generation of thieves on Wall Street who hadn't learned any lesson from the 2008 collapse,....and who are even now back to dealing in risky derivatives with the knowledge that the Cromnibus bill passed in November of last year specifically states that Dodd-Frank will be set aside and , once again, the taxpayer will reward stupid risk-taking. I have an idea......Why don't I give the portion of tax dollars I personally "donated" to ...."save "....Wall Street banks, and allocate that same portion to saving the pension fund I am in? Wall Street caused the problems with defined-benefit funds, I prefer my tax dollars save my fund instead of them.I agree,where is money going to come from to pay us our pensions?
That would be Citizens United vs. the FEC., where the Supreme Court decided that corporate millionaires are SO much more important to Democracy than you and I , Brother Mud....From what I can gather the political system in this country operates on buying votes. Imo, that is why the present administration is spending so much money on helping illegal aliens.
And that would just be the beginning. We spend way too much of our tax money overseas on people who don't even like us.The money to help American pensions is already out there. Millions of our tax dollars are being spent to help illegal aliens already in our country, illegally. Let's start using our tax dollars to help American citizens.
But who would pick the oranges in California?From what I can gather the political system in this country operates on buying votes. Imo, that is why the present administration is spending so much money on helping illegal aliens.
I cant understand why its ok politically to bail out bankers instead of putting them in jail like they did in Iceland and leave hard working people out in the cold when they are the victims! If nothing else bail out no one. But there are billions gone with no accounting of it.The money is going to come from the same place the money came from to bail out Wall Street bankers in 2008 , who were " too big to fail"....and the same place where the money is already being set aside for the new generation of thieves on Wall Street who hadn't learned any lesson from the 2008 collapse,....and who are even now back to dealing in risky derivatives with the knowledge that the Cromnibus bill passed in November of last year specifically states that Dodd-Frank will be set aside and , once again, the taxpayer will reward stupid risk-taking. I have an idea......Why don't I give the portion of tax dollars I personally "donated" to ...."save "....Wall Street banks, and allocate that same portion to saving the pension fund I am in? Wall Street caused the problems with defined-benefit funds, I prefer my tax dollars save my fund instead of them.
I'm sorry, but am I the only "legally born in the U.S." Citizen that beieives that if your title starts with the word "illegal" as in "illegal immigrant" that you have no rights in this country. We say as a country, if you break into our country illegally and we don't catch you, we are then responsible for you. I'm sorry, that is like saying " if I break into a bank, I can be the president of it tomorrow". GIVE ME A BREAKThe money to help American pensions is already out there. Millions of our tax dollars are being spent to help illegal aliens already in our country, illegally. Let's start using our tax dollars to help American citizens.
No you are not. If they get caught they need to be bussed right back home. No doctor, no lawyer, no anything but a bus ride and a drink of water. And anything they have of value should be confiscated and put toward the cost of the bus ride.I'm sorry, but am I the only "legally born in the U.S." Citizen that beieives that if your title starts with the word "illegal" as in "illegal immigrant" that you have no rights in this country.
I like what y'all are saying, I really do. And I agree wholeheartedly. But how do you justify a union that supports the democrats primarily who LOVE illegals? Just a question.
I like what y'all are saying, I really do. And I agree wholeheartedly. But how do you justify a union that supports the democrats primarily who LOVE illegals? Just a question.
I'm sorry, but am I the only "legally born in the U.S." Citizen that beieives that if your title starts with the word "illegal" as in "illegal immigrant" that you have no rights in this country. We say as a country, if you break into our country illegally and we don't catch you, we are then responsible for you. I'm sorry, that is like saying " if I break into a bank, I can be the president of it tomorrow". GIVE ME A BREAK