Yellow | not bluffing

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

NOT BLUFFING MY ASS............they only need 80,000 for whatever your talkimg about. Do you think for one minute they will close the doors over 80,000???? Are you kidding me?????????? Wont happen.....ever.
This company is gonna bluff om amything it can until it gets your yes vote on that ballott. Then see how much res-pect you are treated with after they basicly just punk you out on all your work rules. Trust me they have been looking for any chance to get rid of these work rules for years now. Yhe problem for them is the teansters are tough and they dont scare easy. So the company knows it would take a situiation like this to get rid of those "precious" to us work rules , and they are "pesky" nuisance to the company. They are desparate to get rid of them while they think we are all sheep and will just vote YES, so they tweaked a lot of stuff that isnt even on the summary.

Hell all you poker players out there ought to be able to get a read on them, that they are trying to bluff their way out of this, and win the pot!!!!!!!!!

Only thing you forget is the road-drivers want to be able to load & unload there trucks, be able to work the docks. They want maltable dopr & hooks in the city. They love the rail. Hell a road-driver will fight you for the extra work

 

[Stardog53]

I would love to vote No and send this back for re-negotiations but I have heard enough to convince me this is no bluff... So many on here claim to be true or old time teamsters....if so explain why you are not buying what they are saying. Most No Voters are disclaiming the teamsters .

How many No Voters are going to be so pissed they resign IF this passes ??? There has been three YES votes the past 3 years and I don't know of anyone that has stood their ground and left yet

We all have to do what we think is best...that's our right....Hopefully each of us votes for not only what is best for ourselves and our families but for ALL BROTHERS and THEIR FAMILIES....both old timers and those with many years to work yet

 

[bootleg707]

The insurance on recievables to give them money to operate was extended for this vote if we say no we have no later than Christmas! This is serious stuff the banks would rather LIQUIDATE! do any of you read or research?Save the fight for another day when the economy get's better A NO vote leaves nothing! Did you bother to hear last nights conferense call?

 

[Regular342]

do any of you read or research?Save the fight for another day when the economy get's better A NO vote leaves nothing! Did you bother to hear last nights conferense call?

No they don't. They just stand up and all start pumping their chests like a bunch of damn fools, not understanding the consequences of their actions. It's a true life example of ignorance.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

holland driver here.... yrcw is a dead company. let them die in peace. zolliers did a **** poor job, robbed us blind, took our future, our familys future, **** them out the window,and took home to bed millions of your money. go ahead, vote yes on this b/s, and you will become just like conway. grow some balls guys!!!! we are teamsters!!!! not fedx, not conway, we run the companys, we haul the product, and the mangement takes the money and runs!!!!! let them file, and see what happens!! this is a worst case stab, and if you vote hell no, they will bend, and the b/s may or maynot stop. yrc worldwide, we support china, south america, europe, and #$@!you united states of america. they are trying to break the union, point blank. you will be outsourced, and mayn god have mercy on your soul. VOTE NO!!!!!!

No we will not be outsourced We will be insourced NAFTA COMING Brought to you by bill clinton & approved by the chosin one oboma

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

What in the hell is a $1.06 raise over 4 years going to do for you?

It's only .85 cents over 4 years and as they stated they will be taking 15% of that. Unless your from mighty Chicago Where they only get 10% ( I just don't understand it they promissed to shut the doors if Mighty Chicago did't comply with the 15%. Do you think the company & union might have lied to me? no they would not do that )

 

[Spaghetti]

No we will not be outsourced We will be insourced NAFTA COMING Brought to you by bill clinton & approved by the chosin one oboma

YouTube - Resist the North American Union

 

[tmstrtrukr]

After listening carefully to the conference call...I am voting yes.

What was not said: Every day Gallagher Bassett writes a check out of YRC bank account for worker comp claims in the amount of $800,000 to 1.2 million dollars. EVERY DAY!

Deductibles for an injured worker is $6 million before insurance kicks in
Deductible for a crash is $5 million before insurance kicks in.

That comes out of our bottom line before we see a paycheck.

Crashes and collisons this year has on record to be the worst year in the history of either Yellow Freight or Roadway.

Last I checked, management isn't operating forklifts, trucks etc., and the overwhelming injuries are happening on our union side of the fence.
It's interesting that many "injuries" are occuring from some of the laid off employees called back to work...within a few hours of returning to work.
I spoke with one of our laid off line haul drivers last night. He was working for a sub contractor as a sub hauler for fed ex...running team, making a whole .20 cents per mile. If you check that is 1980's wages. No benefits for himself or family. He gets paid $5.00 for drop and hook, and no monies for delay time. He and his partner were running 6000 miles a week, and he was gone from his family for 6 to 6.5 days a week.

That is the good job available out in the street. Check it out on Monster.com or career builder.com....Hourly wage employees can expect $8.00-$12.00 jobs and you pay for your benefits with most jobs. And talk to some of your laid off workers at your facility. If they see you worked for a union carrier, your services are not needed.

The economy is not turning around...that's why UPS wants to dump UPS freight, and why FED EX is merging their national and freight division. I know I am not buying anything....no cars, no washers and dryers, I am fixing, and patching what I have...and have hunkered down for the duration of this recession.

You have one vote...use it wisely, and if you are voting no, you had better do your research first, and ask yourself if this is from an emotional place or an intellectual place...None of this likes this, but it's better than the option of no paycheck and no insurance. And as they said last night, there is no plan B, no going back to the table. This is it!

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Let me just say, Im a 50yr old single Dad with custody of my Autistic son... I really depend on the medical for my son, especially with the specialist i need to take him too! But with that said, Enough is Enough! I have Bankruptcy papers here ready to fill out, I will do what i need to do to give my son everything he needs to have the best life he can have! But bending over and taking it from YRC with this option is even more then im willing to take! I will take my chances voting no and finding a more secure job, hopefully out of this industry! I'm sure i will end up using state medical for my son, but hopefully that will be temporary!
I've survived 2 company's closing there doors, I know you have to live with the shock factor, then you decide if you want to go right back out in the same rat race, take time and collect unemployment, or just get out of LTL all together. but whatever you chose to do, you adapt, complain, tighten your belt, and move on! the world doesn't end!
Fear sucks!! but Shame you have to live with for a life time! and I will not Shame myself,.. My Family,.. or my fellow brothers by even considering destroying whats left of this Union by voting Yes to this Power trip, Union Busting, Stab in the back contract!
I dont know whats going on in drivers minds or there world that would ever vote yes for this, But I had to tell my story to let them know, there not alone with problems! but this is not the answer! in fact, this would probably make things worse! it will make you part of the working poor! you'll make just a few dollars too much to get any State and federal help, yet you wont be able to make it with what your making here! and with the cut in the medical contributions.. what your hoping to save will self destruct!
My Vote is NO!!!

WELL SAID and you can bet the farm are medical contributions will be next in the JUNE GIVEBACK Remenber the majic words DO WHAT I SAY OR I'LL CLOSE THE DOORS and the yes voters will vote out our medical insurance in June when they can't start our penson again. then comes the june giveback

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

let's say they do have a ton of cash in investments. Why fund the train wreck with it? They got something to fall back on not that they're all millionaires already. What do you have to fall back on. The abyss awaits you

why would they offer a deal that is against the grain of every teamster?

lose a week vacation

lose all overtime

flex week

road drivers doin work

when did they ever go back to the
table after the vote?

never..a rejection meant a strike

have they asked for strike authorization ?

I don't think so

the worst is yet to come

the abyss​

Again you forget not all teamsters lose vacation only a select few. turn bro againest bro split the union

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Theres nothing to strike over!... either we vote yes, and ask UPS if we can use there old name and rename YRC OverNight. or we do the right thing and vote NO and let the world know the Teamsters are willing to go as far as it takes... And if it does lead to the closure of YRC, maybe our stand will help down the road at another union standoff! at least the companys will know Teamsters have the will to take a stand for whats right!

Finally a real man amoung teamsters ( unfortounatly these people don't care about our children getting good jobs down the road. all they care about is themselfs,whats in it for them, and screw everyone else ) I guess it's in the way they was raised ( in total fear )

 

[Free Dumb]

After listening carefully to the conference call...I am voting yes.

What was not said: Every day Gallagher Bassett writes a check out of YRC bank account for worker comp claims in the amount of $800,000 to 1.2 million dollars. EVERY DAY!

Deductibles for an injured worker is $6 million before insurance kicks in
Deductible for a crash is $5 million before insurance kicks in.

That comes out of our bottom line before we see a paycheck.

Crashes and collisons this year has on record to be the worst year in the history of either Yellow Freight or Roadway.

Last I checked, management isn't operating forklifts, trucks etc., and the overwhelming injuries are happening on our union side of the fence.
It's interesting that many "injuries" are occuring from some of the laid off employees called back to work...within a few hours of returning to work.
I spoke with one of our laid off line haul drivers last night. He was working for a sub contractor as a sub hauler for fed ex...running team, making a whole .20 cents per mile. If you check that is 1980's wages. No benefits for himself or family. He gets paid $5.00 for drop and hook, and no monies for delay time. He and his partner were running 6000 miles a week, and he was gone from his family for 6 to 6.5 days a week.

That is the good job available out in the street. Check it out on Monster.com or career builder.com....Hourly wage employees can expect $8.00-$12.00 jobs and you pay for your benefits with most jobs. And talk to some of your laid off workers at your facility. If they see you worked for a union carrier, your services are not needed.

The economy is not turning around...that's why UPS wants to dump UPS freight, and why FED EX is merging their national and freight division. I know I am not buying anything....no cars, no washers and dryers, I am fixing, and patching what I have...and have hunkered down for the duration of this recession.

You have one vote...use it wisely, and if you are voting no, you had better do your research first, and ask yourself if this is from an emotional place or an intellectual place...None of this likes this, but it's better than the option of no paycheck and no insurance. And as they said last night, there is no plan B, no going back to the table. This is it!

Sounds like another reason to shut her down. I do not want to help pay for bogus worker comp claims.

 

[shoeman]

After listening carefully to the conference call...I am voting yes.

What was not said: Every day Gallagher Bassett writes a check out of YRC bank account for worker comp claims in the amount of $800,000 to 1.2 million dollars. EVERY DAY!

Deductibles for an injured worker is $6 million before insurance kicks in
Deductible for a crash is $5 million before insurance kicks in.

That comes out of our bottom line before we see a paycheck.

Crashes and collisons this year has on record to be the worst year in the history of either Yellow Freight or Roadway.

Last I checked, management isn't operating forklifts, trucks etc., and the overwhelming injuries are happening on our union side of the fence.
It's interesting that many "injuries" are occuring from some of the laid off employees called back to work...within a few hours of returning to work.
I spoke with one of our laid off line haul drivers last night. He was working for a sub contractor as a sub hauler for fed ex...running team, making a whole .20 cents per mile. If you check that is 1980's wages. No benefits for himself or family. He gets paid $5.00 for drop and hook, and no monies for delay time. He and his partner were running 6000 miles a week, and he was gone from his family for 6 to 6.5 days a week.

That is the good job available out in the street. Check it out on Monster.com or career builder.com....Hourly wage employees can expect $8.00-$12.00 jobs and you pay for your benefits with most jobs. And talk to some of your laid off workers at your facility. If they see you worked for a union carrier, your services are not needed.

The economy is not turning around...that's why UPS wants to dump UPS freight, and why FED EX is merging their national and freight division. I know I am not buying anything....no cars, no washers and dryers, I am fixing, and patching what I have...and have hunkered down for the duration of this recession.

You have one vote...use it wisely, and if you are voting no, you had better do your research first, and ask yourself if this is from an emotional place or an intellectual place...None of this likes this, but it's better than the option of no paycheck and no insurance. And as they said last night, there is no plan B, no going back to the table. This is it!

I doubt you are voting yes Mister two post. Last I checked, you had to actually be a Teamster to get a ballot. Management just blows steam on Truckingboards instead of doing the job they are getting paid to do. At least the drivers do it on their own time. You seem to care an awful lot about Fed-ex. Who th heck cares about them. By the way, I knew before it, but the dead give-away was when you said...."YOU" have one vote"! Worried about finding a job there Scooter? I'm not. I could have one the next day. Management coming from YRC? Good luck Good Buddy! I vote NO and if they shut the doors I will suck 2 years of unemployment and work for cash with the Mexicans.

 

[wolf]

No they don't. They just stand up and all start pumping their chests like a bunch of damn fools, not understanding the consequences of their actions. It's a true life example of ignorance.

I have the answer. If you vote yes its because your gnad free, If you vote no its because your ignorant. Might as well throw my ballot away, then I can stay smart and keep my nuts too. :Omg_I_gets_present_

 

[Gearjammer]

Master Freight Agreement

January 15, 1964 became a monumental day in Teamsters history when the first National Master Freight Agreement was signed in Chicago. This contract would provide solid, standardized protection and benefits to more than 450, 000 over-the-road and local cartage drivers across the country.

The contract, which was described as an impossible task by critics and friends of labor alike, was a milestone for labor unions everywhere. James R. Hoffa, architect, chief negotiator, and overall firestorm of energy behind the agreement, considered this the crowning achievement of his tenure with the Teamsters.
A Dream Becomes Reality

The NMFA of 1964 brought more workers into the middleclass than any other single event in labor history. Hoffa was determined to improve the standard of living for workers, and increase respect for "non-craft" laborers such as over-the-road drivers.

The agreement was the first step in a larger dream to nationalize union contracts. And it revolutionized the way in which goods of all types were moved across the country.

Over-the road and cartage drivers -- empowered through economic gains, stability, and a strong Teamsters Union -- became a force in America's political landscape. Political leaders began to realize the concerns and interests of this group must be recognized, as they could easily mobilize into a formidable voting block as never before imagined.
Path for the Future

Hoffa believed the only way for workers to maintain standards they had achieved, and for unions to survive would be through master contracts throughout all the trade divisions of the Teamsters.

Just as employers are organized on national level, so must labor consolidate its power -- and this was the breakthrough in the NMFA of 1964. The agreement gave the Teamsters power equal and even beyond that of the big trucking companies.

In the changing world of economics and trade, this blueprint remains the course all unions must take in order to ensure their hard earned legacy is not diminished in the future.

 

[shoeman]

Master Freight Agreement

January 15, 1964 became a monumental day in Teamsters history when the first National Master Freight Agreement was signed in Chicago. This contract would provide solid, standardized protection and benefits to more than 450, 000 over-the-road and local cartage drivers across the country.

The contract, which was described as an impossible task by critics and friends of labor alike, was a milestone for labor unions everywhere. James R. Hoffa, architect, chief negotiator, and overall firestorm of energy behind the agreement, considered this the crowning achievement of his tenure with the Teamsters.
A Dream Becomes Reality

The NMFA of 1964 brought more workers into the middleclass than any other single event in labor history. Hoffa was determined to improve the standard of living for workers, and increase respect for "non-craft" laborers such as over-the-road drivers.

The agreement was the first step in a larger dream to nationalize union contracts. And it revolutionized the way in which goods of all types were moved across the country.

Over-the road and cartage drivers -- empowered through economic gains, stability, and a strong Teamsters Union -- became a force in America's political landscape. Political leaders began to realize the concerns and interests of this group must be recognized, as they could easily mobilize into a formidable voting block as never before imagined.
Path for the Future

Hoffa believed the only way for workers to maintain standards they had achieved, and for unions to survive would be through master contracts throughout all the trade divisions of the Teamsters.

Just as employers are organized on national level, so must labor consolidate its power -- and this was the breakthrough in the NMFA of 1964. The agreement gave the Teamsters power equal and even beyond that of the big trucking companies.

In the changing world of economics and trade, this blueprint remains the course all unions must take in order to ensure their hard earned legacy is not diminished in the future.

NICE! Thank You!

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

don't feel rejected when you get the goodbye kiss

YRC is incapable of conducting operations
the union knows--God knows it too but a lot of former gung ho proud Marines out there
are willing to fight to the bitter end like Japan did in the war​

That's right the Marines fought to the bitter end. AND WON and if the Marines voted yes to surrender you would't even be here SUMPTER-FI

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

"From what I have been told it is unlikely that even getting back in at 25% is going to allow us to get any future accruals for our pension."

So why do they think we will vote yes, when it would put an end to the LOA policy, if we are not going to be getting any accrual to our pensions?

Yea you will get one year for every 4 years you work. 120 years you can retire at 30 & out

 

[Stardog53]

Well said tmstrtrukr !!!! It's refreshing to see someone who has done some research and given this considerable thought and research

Gearjammer...thanks for the post but this is not 1964...Mr Hoffa isn't here anymore ....thanks for the memories of 46 years ago....this is not Our Fathers Union anymore...we are dealing with poor management, bad acquisitions and a horrendous recession

Sloppyseconds and other No Voters....Nearly all of you proclaim to being voting No to strengthen the Teamsters.....yet you are going directly against their recommendation here...Please explain

 

[shoeman]

Gearjammer...thanks for the post but this is not 1964...Mr Hoffa isn't here anymore ....thanks for the memories of 46 years ago....this is not Our Fathers Union anymore...we are dealing with poor management, bad acquisitions and a horrendous recession

Sloppyseconds and other No Voters....Nearly all of you proclaim to being voting No to strengthen the Teamsters.....yet you are going directly against their recommendation here...Please explain

God, I hope you are a management troll and not an actual Union member!