TForce | Pardon Me, Who is Running this Company?

[Greezy Trucker]

I know that was mean but someone had to say it....

Yeah your a company JOE and we are all whiners.....But hey we all have respect for eachother and all this name calling brings on unity,Right???? Its called respect for others opinions and feeling.......Which the non union supporters seriously lack the ability to do......

 

[accelerator]

First, let me start by saying that while I am not an employee of UPS Freight, I have been married to one of its employees for many years now. My spouse who has worked for MC/Overnite/UPS for quite some time started first on the dock, then moved to P & D, and now he is an LTL driver.

I have to ask, are you employees irritated with this company right now? It's like the blind leading the blind out there, and apparently, no managing skill sets are required for the job of manager, any manager position. Who in the blazes is running this company, Forest Gump?

I have seen some backwards#$% managing strategies in my life, but nothing to the likes of the level of incompetence that is being displayed, at least along the west coast! Since when do LTL drivers break their own trailer, work the dock and best of all, work as P & D drivers to fill in the gaps in a terminal? Well, if the group of schmuck Execs who thought up this "brilliant idea", along with the laundry list of other "brilliant ideas" that have popped up lately, wish for the LTL drivers to blow through their 70 hours a week (especially in chaining season) pushing freight and waiting for hours for their trailers to be ready at these "minihubs", then I am sure the same Execs won't mind when their tractors and trailers full of freight are left at the side of the road because the LTL drivers have blown through their 70 hours and can drive no more (it's the law)---- more power to you Execs!

This is just one of the many disturbing turn of events as of late. LA to Sacramento bid drivers being sent 3 days out to Medford (why bid on a run?), OR, cutting a crucial Portland run out of Salt Lake so now the Portland freight is just stacking up on the docks, OR, Sacramento LTL drivers being turned into Sleeper Teams, OR, the half#$% computer training materials being sent out for a little light toilet reading, OR, 6 day runs out of Boise (can you say burnt out and out of hours?)....I can go on and on and on.....

This is out of control! As a person in the business of operations management and business analysis, I am absolutely astonished by the mismanaged and ineffective way this company has been managed since the "merger". I am not even sure who is running the show.

Overnite/UPS may not want a union in their midsts, but anymore poor communication, mismangement, lies, deception and BS like I have seen displayed over the past 3-4 weeks and they won't need to violate the employees civil rights by sending out harassing letters and CD's, because employees will be lining up just to sign up with the teamsters. That's what I call a great strategy by the Execs --- treat your employees like crap so they won't join the teamsters, what a brilliant idea, unfortunately, it doesn't work that way!

I want to get paid what these guys are getting paid, lots of many to "brainstorm" and implement half baked ideas.

I see forest gump every morning. She is the nicest Gump i've ever seen. And has the mantality of a garden hose!!!!!! so the shoe fits. I was vearing in the direction of wringling bros. but i like the gump instead.

What you are seeing is "SHOCK AND AWE",
O was very good at this, most of the day we peddle in shock, and at the end of the day we are in awe that it is the end of the day.,and we still have account's left!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[accelerator]

Thanks for the welcome Valerie, BusterNite and greezy trucker.

As you can see, I am not a spouse who will be seen and not heard.

Honestly greezer trucker, I am not sure if anyone here knows who their daddy is anymore? My spouse has a TM that went to some type of training for part of the week and then took vacation the rest of the week. In the mean time, his terminal is falling apart around him. He has an Ops Mngr who is dysfunctional, disorganized and unable to multitask and this man is in desperate need of personality and a brain. Picture the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz without the sunny disposition and you can get a pretty good idea. The Ops Mngr informed my spouse that the "managers" cannot complain to any of the Execs about anything because they want to think everything is great, so no one in Virginia to wherever is getting any real feedback. What is the purpose of an "Open Door Policy" and/or the elicitation of employee feedback and comments (referred to in handbook) if they have no interest in hearing the truth?

The truth hurts sometimes and when a company’s moral plummets in the short amount of time as it has with this merger, then it is time for management to do some strategizing and actually manage the resistance to the changes that are occurring by truly listening to their employees, their spouses and their concerns. That would mean that the Leo's, Matt’s, Mike’s, Mark’s and whoever else would need to spend a little more time with their employees than 30 minutes every 6 months to year. Either that, or they need to hire the right folks who actually have practical experience in project management, training and development, change management and facilitation, who can effectively work through some of the issues and work with the Execs to develop new strategies to put their employees at ease. Change happens and not everyone will like some of the changes; however, there is a more effective way to brainstorm and test out new ideas that might save time, or budget, or, they might not. The problem is that none of these people are qualified to do it – do it correctly.

Sounds like our old dispatcher,, we was wonderin were he went. To be quite frank I feel the same as you. this company makes monies by mistake...... And welcome to the boards by the way.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[steve5]

With all the whining from so many drivers it is probally hard for a manager to stand it........................

Once again the anti-union employees you can always count on the inconsiderate remarks from, but then I guess If it was my company that bought a better company and the bought company had to lower its employee pay to fit in, I guess I would be hostile to the bought company's employees too. Instead of wanting the best for my fellow employees,even the newly added employees,you see, that would mean the company that I thought was so great really isn't. Then I would realize that they only have their own intrests in mind, but I can't admit that, some how that might make me look bad. Yes, I guess I would act the same way. Long live the CEO's!

 

[accelerator]

I know that was mean but someone had to say it....

Say what some of the whining you speak of could be eliminated with communication, WOW what a concept hah. most of the *****es some of us have are legitimate, but unfortunatly ignored.... If some one put a little seriousness in thier work this company mite resemble a company!!!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[BusterNite]

With all the whining from so many drivers it is probally hard for a manager to stand it........................

Im sorry, The message box is full, and we cannot except any complaint's at this time. Please call back at a later time and we will get back to you with out (delay)

 

[BusterNite]

First, let me start by saying that while I am not an employee of UPS Freight, I have been married to one of its employees for many years now. My spouse who has worked for MC/Overnite/UPS for quite some time started first on the dock, then moved to P & D, and now he is an LTL driver.

I have to ask, are you employees irritated with this company right now? It's like the blind leading the blind out there, and apparently, no managing skill sets are required for the job of manager, any manager position. Who in the blazes is running this company, Forest Gump?

I have seen some backwards#$% managing strategies in my life, but nothing to the likes of the level of incompetence that is being displayed, at least along the west coast! Since when do LTL drivers break their own trailer, work the dock and best of all, work as P & D drivers to fill in the gaps in a terminal? Well, if the group of schmuck Execs who thought up this "brilliant idea", along with the laundry list of other "brilliant ideas" that have popped up lately, wish for the LTL drivers to blow through their 70 hours a week (especially in chaining season) pushing freight and waiting for hours for their trailers to be ready at these "minihubs", then I am sure the same Execs won't mind when their tractors and trailers full of freight are left at the side of the road because the LTL drivers have blown through their 70 hours and can drive no more (it's the law)---- more power to you Execs!

This is just one of the many disturbing turn of events as of late. LA to Sacramento bid drivers being sent 3 days out to Medford (why bid on a run?), OR, cutting a crucial Portland run out of Salt Lake so now the Portland freight is just stacking up on the docks, OR, Sacramento LTL drivers being turned into Sleeper Teams, OR, the half#$% computer training materials being sent out for a little light toilet reading, OR, 6 day runs out of Boise (can you say burnt out and out of hours?)....I can go on and on and on.....

This is out of control! As a person in the business of operations management and business analysis, I am absolutely astonished by the mismanaged and ineffective way this company has been managed since the "merger". I am not even sure who is running the show.

Overnite/UPS may not want a union in their midsts, but anymore poor communication, mismangement, lies, deception and BS like I have seen displayed over the past 3-4 weeks and they won't need to violate the employees civil rights by sending out harassing letters and CD's, because employees will be lining up just to sign up with the teamsters. That's what I call a great strategy by the Execs --- treat your employees like crap so they won't join the teamsters, what a brilliant idea, unfortunately, it doesn't work that way!

I want to get paid what these guys are getting paid, lots of many to "brainstorm" and implement half baked ideas.

Just had to read it again. I just might print this out so that I can read it every night before I go to work. Just for my sanity!

 

[theoriginalwebidiot]

if ups had not bought overnite and cargo you would not have a job you would be bankrupt...UPSfreight will cost ups untold amounts of money and time to get it anywhere a viable and productive company. And fedex just rolls on...keep drinking the kool aid and watching your video....Leo will come riding up on a white horse any day and save the day...the last time I looked he did not look like john wayne.

 

[Johnnybegood]

Say what some of the whining you speak of could be eliminated with communication, WOW what a concept hah. most of the *****es some of us have are legitimate, but unfortunatly ignored.... If some one put a little seriousness in thier work this company mite resemble a company!!!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

Ask most drivers communication with your company will not change if you become a member i think tensions become even more strained.... .

 

[Johnnybegood]

Im sorry, The message box is full, and we cannot except any complaint's at this time. Please call back at a later time and we will get back to you with out (delay)

Does the truth hurt...............

 

[Skeeter]

if ups had not bought overnite and cargo you would not have a job you would be bankrupt...UPSfreight will cost ups untold amounts of money and time to get it anywhere a viable and productive company. And fedex just rolls on...keep drinking the kool aid and watching your video....Leo will come riding up on a white horse any day and save the day...the last time I looked he did not look like john wayne.

FedEx is hiring they can use good company men like you.

 

[upsfreightnate]

I was with american freightways when they were bought out by fedex I've seen how long it takes to get things in gear. Remember it only took five years to get to the place they are now. When i was let go (don't ask) from there our freight levels were 600 bills a night in bound now when i talk to old friends they tell me it averages 1250 a night!!! AF management was a joke! 6 tm's in 4 years and we even had the ceo leave so doug d. (evil genius) could come and take over. IT TAKES TIME! heck we didn't see a new fedex trailer for a year and a half now, I see at least 7 sets of new ups freight pups in des moines everyday going down 35. RELAX.....It will be ironed out but if we don't go to our customers with a smile and a positive attitude we surely will fail. Pull it together the battle is upon us.

 

[Skeeter]

I was with american freightways when they were bought out by fedex I've seen how long it takes to get things in gear. Remember it only took five years to get to the place they are now. When i was let go (don't ask) from there our freight levels were 600 bills a night in bound now when i talk to old friends they tell me it averages 1250 a night!!! AF management was a joke! 6 tm's in 4 years and we even had the ceo leave so doug d. (evil genius) could come and take over. IT TAKES TIME! heck we didn't see a new fedex trailer for a year and a half now, I see at least 7 sets of new ups freight pups in des moines everyday going down 35. RELAX.....It will be ironed out but if we don't go to our customers with a smile and a positive attitude we surely will fail. Pull it together the battle is upon us.

Well said...:smilie_132:

 

[upsfreightnate]

Well said...:smilie_132:

Thanks...I have been on these forums now for going on 2 months and I've seen an unfortunate pattern. There are a few who like to complain on how bad things are yet, they don't seem to have any real good feasible thought out ideas except going union. It is not the answer! I just left yellow to come to ups why? Cause of the union. They are useless! Have a problem call the hall and get voicemail, leave a message and have never gotten a reponse back. Gone to the hall and got face to face with people and still get the same old bull "ahhh I'll have to look into that" And I'm paying you how much a month in dues?! I've worked union (Yellow) and non-union (FedEx Freight) and the ones who were the happiest and enjoyed their jobs were the ones without contracts. Why? Because everyone put their heads together as a whole and came up with ideas and implemented them at the drop of a hat and didn't have to go to a bunch of failing bullying parasites for permission to use these great ideas. Thus making everything a family type atmosphere which FedEx is thriving in! And did i mention there are road drivers that have been at yellow 18 years and still have to start at 2am and be gone days at a time. Where as fedex, conway and even our own UPS freight have daytime runs you can bid after less than a couple years and be home every night. My rambling is done and seem to have drifted off topic. But remember that old saying "LEAD BY EXAMPLE". I don't think we were purchased just so big brown could be embarrassed.

And yes I understand the irony of bashing the union and working for a company that was bought by one of the biggest organized entities in the world.

 

[steve5]

Thanks...I have been on these forums now for going on 2 months and I've seen an unfortunate pattern. There are a few who like to complain on how bad things are yet, they don't seem to have any real good feasible thought out ideas except going union. It is not the answer! I just left yellow to come to ups why? Cause of the union. They are useless! Have a problem call the hall and get voicemail, leave a message and have never gotten a reponse back. Gone to the hall and got face to face with people and still get the same old bull "ahhh I'll have to look into that" And I'm paying you how much a month in dues?! I've worked union (Yellow) and non-union (FedEx Freight) and the ones who were the happiest and enjoyed their jobs were the ones without contracts. Why? Because everyone put their heads together as a whole and came up with ideas and implemented them at the drop of a hat and didn't have to go to a bunch of failing bullying parasites for permission to use these great ideas. Thus making everything a family type atmosphere which FedEx is thriving in! And did i mention there are road drivers that have been at yellow 18 years and still have to start at 2am and be gone days at a time. Where as fedex, conway and even our own UPS freight have daytime runs you can bid after less than a couple years and be home every night. My rambling is done and seem to have drifted off topic. But remember that old saying "LEAD BY EXAMPLE".

This is all great what your saying but the problem is management is not listening. I am not one to go and gripe to management until thier deaf, when I see another negative I ask what happened and why. And I basically get oh, I'll have to get back to you. I guess this must sound familiar to you. As far as complaining I do it here as a vent, but it is exactly how I feel on these matters, though I don't go from office to office yelling about them like some here like to believe. Here I go asking this again, what do you think we should do? Nothing? Wait for management to make a move? Since Feb 1st we find something new has been taken away sometimes every week or something new implemented ie: second lay for bids to name one. This is not rumors that I'm talking about, this is the real thing. I say give something back like delay or contract. I'm sorry the Teamsters didn't work out for you, but your one out of the many that it did. What is your solution besides wait?

 

[upsfreightnate]

This is all great what your saying but the problem is management is not listening. I am not one to go and gripe to management until thier deaf, when I see another negative I ask what happened and why. And I basically get oh, I'll have to get back to you. I guess this must sound familiar to you. As far as complaining I do it here as a vent, but it is exactly how I feel on these matters, though I don't go from office to office yelling about them like some here like to believe. Here I go asking this again, what do you think we should do? Nothing? Wait for management to make a move? Since Feb 1st we find something new has been taken away sometimes every week or something new implemented ie: second lay for bids to name one. This is not rumors that I'm talking about, this is the real thing. I say give something back like delay or contract. I'm sorry the Teamsters didn't work out for you, but your one out of the many that it did. What is your solution besides wait?

I think mgmnt has a ton in front of them right now and are scrambling to figure out which end to wipe with and which one to eat with. My terminal manager quit! He was there 21 years and just up and quit why? Cause I'm told he was HORRIBLE (remember I'm new) he didn't even spend money on a cleaning crew to clean up the offices, an absolute pig pen. All because he wanted to keep op. expenses down. HA! You will see changes some good, some bad but this is a whole new experience for these half wits and those who stumble and trip during the race don't win and sometimes don't finish at all. I don't have all the answers but I've been here once before and everything turned out great in the end.

 

[Apostolic]

I for one agree attitude is everything..

If you can be positive,you are able to overlook the negatives,but if your negative its very hard to find anything positive.

I've put a lot of positives to the test since I became an Apostolic Pentecostal Born Again Christian.

I've posted of my life before salvation in Jesus name 1981.
I was a real wreak,with a very bad attitude.
But salvation has given me a whole new prespective on life.

Whenever I see something thats heading down hill.
Such as the Overnite/UPS Freight transition,seems to be going now.

I take it to God in prayer,which I've been doing after some strange events I've seen since the launch date.

I asked my outbound supervisor just yesterday.
Whats my TM thinking in some of the bad calls he's made this week with our routes?

He said he didn't know?
He woundered why I asked that?

I said if the management fails we all fail.
But if the mamagement succeeds,we all succeed.

I told him I was praying for our TM,and all of my supervisors,as well as UPS Freight to succeed,and our buisness to prosper.

I've seen this happen in the past,when the Rail Road owned us,and were totaly clueless on running a LTL trucking company.
I asked for God's help then as well.

Maybe no one else on these boards can relate to my posts?
But as for me God has always answered my prayers, where the Teamsters union would let me down when I was a member,in good standing.
I had a hard time understanding why they weren't there when I could use their help?

Oh well people will let you down,where God never fails.

 

[Johnnybegood]

I was with american freightways when they were bought out by fedex I've seen how long it takes to get things in gear. Remember it only took five years to get to the place they are now. When i was let go (don't ask) from there our freight levels were 600 bills a night in bound now when i talk to old friends they tell me it averages 1250 a night!!! AF management was a joke! 6 tm's in 4 years and we even had the ceo leave so doug d. (evil genius) could come and take over. IT TAKES TIME! heck we didn't see a new fedex trailer for a year and a half now, I see at least 7 sets of new ups freight pups in des moines everyday going down 35. RELAX.....It will be ironed out but if we don't go to our customers with a smile and a positive attitude we surely will fail. Pull it together the battle is upon us.

I agree.............:smilie_132:

 

[Skeeter]

I don't know how it is on the east coast. But the west is 500 to a 1000 bills behind in some places. They are flying dock and city from other locations to help out each week.

The west coast has always been the arm pit of Overnite. With the management we have out here and the work ethics of a lot of people on the west coast its not a pretty picture.

What I can't understand is even after being behind like we are they still won't let the terminals hire.

Sacramento should be a 24-7 operation but we still are not. Wonder why we stay behind.

They say everything is pretty much on hold till we complete the merger with MC. See how many drivers will stay or leave.

Some will probably be forced on team and will probably quit. Don't say that I would blame them. However, If they could tough it out it will smooth out.

UPS is not a quitter they will get this new company up and running. Being here as long as I have I've seen what the people here are made of. Failure is not a option for UPS.

I might add for those that want the union. No one deserves a raise of any kind tell we all learn to pull together and make the changes we need to make this company operate like it should.

 

[Johnnybegood]

I don't know how it is on the east coast. But the west is 500 to a 1000 bills behind in some places. They are flying dock and city from other locations to help out each week.

The west coast has always been the arm pit of Overnite. With the management we have out here and the work ethics of a lot of people on the west coast its not a pretty picture.

What I can't understand is even after being behind like we are they still won't let the terminals hire.

Sacramento should be a 24-7 operation but we still are not. Wonder why we stay behind.

They say everything is pretty much on hold till we complete the merger with MC. See how many drivers will stay or leave.

Some will probably be forced on team and will probably quit. Don't say that I would blame them. However, If they could tough it out it will smooth out.

UPS is not a quitter they will get this new company up and running. Being here as long as I have I've seen what the people here are made of. Failure is not a option for UPS.

I might add for those that want the union. No one deserves a raise of any kind tell we all learn to pull together and make the changes we need to make this company operate like it should.

I agree.......