TForce | Pardon Me, Who is Running this Company?

Hey Skeeter you can join me in prayer..

You know the Holy Bible states that where any two, or more believing ,and agreeing, asking anything in Jesus name, it shall be done.

I know you know that God answers prayer,and if UPS Freight ever need someone to pray,and agree in Jesus name,now is the time.

God bless you,my brother.
Keep the faith God, is always blessing his Apostolics that believe him,and trust him for everything.
 
upsfreightnate said:
I think mgmnt has a ton in front of them right now and are scrambling to figure out which end to wipe with and which one to eat with. My terminal manager quit! He was there 21 years and just up and quit why? Cause I'm told he was HORRIBLE (remember I'm new) he didn't even spend money on a cleaning crew to clean up the offices, an absolute pig pen. All because he wanted to keep op. expenses down. HA! You will see changes some good, some bad but this is a whole new experience for these half wits and those who stumble and trip during the race don't win and sometimes don't finish at all. I don't have all the answers but I've been here once before and everything turned out great in the end.
I definitely understand that, but their not giving us any info on the good yet, the only good so far is the medical benefits which is the best I've had so far. That is definitely a big plus. I just wish they would have had written down what we don't get as far as pay, delay, instead of hearing about it little by little. Its all about communication, and were not getting much here.
 
Apostolic said:
If you can be positive,you are able to overlook the negatives,but if your negative its very hard to find anything positive.

I've put a lot of positives to the test since I became an Apostolic Pentecostal Born Again Christian.

I've posted of my life before salvation in Jesus name 1981.
I was a real wreak,with a very bad attitude.
But salvation has given me a whole new prespective on life.

Whenever I see something thats heading down hill.
Such as the Overnite/UPS Freight transition,seems to be going now.

I take it to God in prayer,which I've been doing after some strange events I've seen since the launch date.

I asked my outbound supervisor just yesterday.
Whats my TM thinking in some of the bad calls he's made this week with our routes?

He said he didn't know?
He woundered why I asked that?

I said if the management fails we all fail.
But if the mamagement succeeds,we all succeed.

I told him I was praying for our TM,and all of my supervisors,as well as UPS Freight to succeed,and our buisness to prosper.

I've seen this happen in the past,when the Rail Road owned us,and were totaly clueless on running a LTL trucking company.
I asked for God's help then as well.

Maybe no one else on these boards can relate to my posts?
But as for me God has always answered my prayers, where the Teamsters union would let me down when I was a member,in good standing.
I had a hard time understanding why they weren't there when I could use their help?

Oh well people will let you down,where God never fails.
You just don't get it. Your post don't make much sense to me. I'm not trying to be disrespectful saying that, and attitude has nothing to do with it. It has to do with a human nature, wanting to progress, having a better life, ect... If you knew me, bad attitude would be the last thing that would come to mind.
 
steve5 said:
Once again the anti-union employees you can always count on the inconsiderate remarks from, but then I guess If it was my company that bought a better company and the bought company had to lower its employee pay to fit in, I guess I would be hostile to the bought company's employees too. Instead of wanting the best for my fellow employees,even the newly added employees,you see, that would mean the company that I thought was so great really isn't. Then I would realize that they only have their own intrests in mind, but I can't admit that, some how that might make me look bad. Yes, I guess I would act the same way. Long live the CEO's!
Don't forget that we are expected to lower our customer service standards too.
 
Skeeter said:
I don't know how it is on the east coast. But the west is 500 to a 1000 bills behind in some places. They are flying dock and city from other locations to help out each week.

The west coast has always been the arm pit of Overnite. With the management we have out here and the work ethics of a lot of people on the west coast its not a pretty picture.

What I can't understand is even after being behind like we are they still won't let the terminals hire.

Sacramento should be a 24-7 operation but we still are not. Wonder why we stay behind.

They say everything is pretty much on hold till we complete the merger with MC. See how many drivers will stay or leave.

Some will probably be forced on team and will probably quit. Don't say that I would blame them. However, If they could tough it out it will smooth out.

UPS is not a quitter they will get this new company up and running. Being here as long as I have I've seen what the people here are made of. Failure is not a option for UPS.

I might add for those that want the union. No one deserves a raise of any kind tell we all learn to pull together and make the changes we need to make this company operate like it should.
We were never behind on bills, the job isn't done until the dock is clear. the docks are clear every night. if we have too much freight to handle with regular drivers and crew, we use part time workers. if that dosen't work we get Rialto to save the day or vise-versa. but it allways gets done. No one is asking for a raise over here, just give it back, like I've said before the cpm is fine. I'm not saying MC was better, but one thing they did do right and that's run efficently. Never had a loss year in it's history.
 
Johnnybegood said:
Ask most drivers communication with your company will not change if you become a member i think tensions become even more strained....:duh: .

I did not say that communication is the pathway to the teamsters. What I am suggesting is that alot of turmoil in this company is in part related to the irresponsibility of management and the lack of communication. I am not suggesting it will get better being teamster's .

If we run a study, which UPS likes to do, and be trustworthy about it, you would find that communication is not only the biggest problem in this company, but in most.

This is the reason why most companies (and it sounds like this one is adopting the same method's) have meetings to get employees involved so they do not become teamsters, Smoke and mirrors taktics, company koolaid , etc. etc.

Wal- M. has been doing this for years and has become quite successful at it.

It is truely amazing what employee recognition will do for the success of a company.

By essentially telling someone who has pride in the job they are doing, in a subliminal way ,the they are infact insignificant, breed's anger and mistrust, therefore people will look for an alternative to the norm, as a way to be respectfully recogized, and in most cases in the work environment it is the teamsters.

So when you see alot of people who are angered as such keep in mind that it is'nt necessarily thier fault, and keep an opened mind as to what is happening. and also if you want an example of a third grade mantality , I will be more than happy to give you one of such events that just happened recently where a driver hears comments from other drivers, about something a TM said about his productivity, which has nothing to do with him, but the lack of maintanence in this company. Now this is one single drivers fault I am sure. And the continued irresponsible communication tacktics from a manager who obviuosly has a problem with this driver, but will not set him aside and tell him , but tell's others instead. Is this a professional, or someone who should be in a mgnt. position. Sounds like something my third grader would do, or a good soap opera.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
Skeeter said:
I don't know how it is on the east coast. But the west is 500 to a 1000 bills behind in some places. They are flying dock and city from other locations to help out each week.

The west coast has always been the arm pit of Overnite. With the management we have out here and the work ethics of a lot of people on the west coast its not a pretty picture.

What I can't understand is even after being behind like we are they still won't let the terminals hire.

Sacramento should be a 24-7 operation but we still are not. Wonder why we stay behind.

They say everything is pretty much on hold till we complete the merger with MC. See how many drivers will stay or leave.

Some will probably be forced on team and will probably quit. Don't say that I would blame them. However, If they could tough it out it will smooth out.

UPS is not a quitter they will get this new company up and running. Being here as long as I have I've seen what the people here are made of. Failure is not a option for UPS.

I might add for those that want the union. No one deserves a raise of any kind tell we all learn to pull together and make the changes we need to make this company operate like it should.

So the lowly driver has to make the changes? As far as I can tell we are not qualified to look at anything over the size of a windshield.....O management is the ones that can't get the job done.... And from all that I talked to they are the ones that will not let the issue go......They are determined to hold meetings about it.....And not truly address the issues that you are saying we can group together and fix....We are only as good as the leadership, and frankly they are a joke.....
 
greezy trucker said:
So the lowly driver has to make the changes? As far as I can tell we are not qualified to look at anything over the size of a windshield.....O management is the ones that can't get the job done.... And from all that I talked to they are the ones that will not let the issue go......They are determined to hold meetings about it.....And not truly address the issues that you are saying we can group together and fix....We are only as good as the leadership, and frankly they are a joke.....

I must say this , Mgnt. has kept this company afloat.
the parctices mentioned herein are practices that have been hovering in this company scince I have started and are an abomination as compared to most that I have worked for.

Training and respect and communication is the key and should be pounded into mgnt. and unfortunatly we do not have this . this is not the fault of an unruely bunch of irresponsible drivers, after all we are not the people being fired , its mgnt.

There should be simple guidelines for people to follow, and should be enforced to be followed by not only upper mgnt. but down to the" irresponsible driver's."

Mgnt. has alway's said the drivers are f@#$%^& the company and vice versa, bout time for the baby mantality to stop and this step alone will in time promote profitability.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
greezy trucker said:
So the lowly driver has to make the changes? As far as I can tell we are not qualified to look at anything over the size of a windshield.....O management is the ones that can't get the job done.... And from all that I talked to they are the ones that will not let the issue go......They are determined to hold meetings about it.....And not truly address the issues that you are saying we can group together and fix....We are only as good as the leadership, and frankly they are a joke.....

I don't believe I've ever said we have the best and brightest management in the industry. However, any transition is messy. Viking and AF wasn't without problems when FedEx merged them together.

Management should have a better handle on things. We shouldn't be 1000 bills behind in Fontana. But UPS will in time straighten management and the company out.

We are not even two months old {UPSF}
Give it some time mellow out MC people I agree with most of you but I also think it is all going to work out.

P.S. I think we all have a very bright future.:bgroovy:
 
I owe everyone one the UPS Freight board an apology.

I'm an Apostolic first and a carrer truck driver second.
I was a truck driver long before seeing the light,and becoming an Apostolic.

Before my transformation I was totaly out of control with my bad attitude,and sensitive feelings,I had a very short fuse,ready to tell someone off ,or worse to pound them into the ground.

Now I reconize I'm nothing without God's help.
I now live a Biblical life.
I have peace,rest and joy,and turn all my troubles over to God than just forget about it.

But as my wife has brought to my attention,most people can not relate to this lifestyle.
And just because I think its the greatest way to live.
Most people are used to how they live.
They aren't going to understand what I'm talking about.

So I want to express my deepest apology to everyone on this board.
I'll only try to post the issues at hand without pushing my Christian life on all of you.
Thanks a lot for putting up with me so far.
 
Apo your an asset to these boards. With all your yrs of experience. But pushing religion on people is not going to get them into it. I know from experience like I told you before my parents are very religious. Anyway post away and have fun.
 
Thanks Boats..

Your 100% correct.
It took my wife to ask me what I was doing when I was sharing my disapoinment of how I was being misunderstood on the trucking boards,with her.

Just goes to show me that my wife is not only my best friend, but isn't afraid to set me on the right course when I start driving off the road.

This is another point that behind every good man there is a good woman.

Thanks again for your uderstanding.
I'll just stick to the issues at hand from now on.
 
Apo,
I don't think that you're being misunderstood at all. I don't think you need to apologize either. We all know what you're talking about. I think that what some of us find difficult to understand is that you are ok with the way you and others are treated by your bosses. An example would be how you've asked the same question for 20 years and asked it again last week and still you get no real answer....but yet you defend those who don't care enough about you to answer a simple question. I personally find it reprehensible that your TM would hint that unless you made all your deliveries he might have to fire you.....that was totally disrespectful. I would've loved to be your Steward that day. Your jerk of a boss would never have said anything like that to you again.
 
Apostolic said:
Your 100% correct.
It took my wife to ask me what I was doing when I was sharing my disapoinment of how I was being misunderstood on the trucking boards,with her.

Just goes to show me that my wife is not only my best friend, but isn't afraid to set me on the right course when I start driving off the road.

This is another point that behind every good man there is a good woman.

Thanks again for your understanding.
I'll just stick to the issues at hand from now on.

The issues at hand are what ever you want to talk about regardless weather its about the company or your on personal beliefs.
Which by the way is all related.

Like Jeff says if you don't like a post skip over it. Just enjoy the board. I for one like your posts and references to THE KING OF KINGS...:bgroovy:
 
Skeeter said:
The issues at hand are what ever you want to talk about regardless weather its about the company or your on personal beliefs.
Which by the way is all related.

Like Jeff says if you don't like a post skip over it. Just enjoy the board. I for one like your posts and references to THE KING OF KINGS...:bgroovy:
A skipping we will go.......:biglaugh:
 
Holy cow, I didn't see that dog pile comming! I've offended everybody's buddy. One thing you won't see from me is joining a bandwagon against a pro-CEO employee. I've called MC guys to the carpet for questionable comments. Be reasonable, don't pile just because it's somone you don't agree with.
 
steve5 said:
Holy cow, I didn't see that dog pile comming! I've offended everybody's buddy. One thing you won't see from me is joining a bandwagon against a pro-CEO employee. I've called MC guys to the carpet for questionable comments. Be reasonable, don't pile just because it's somone you don't agree with.
That is how it works.....If you like Kool-Aid your stupid, If you like a voice your stupid..... But we can work together and tell one of the largest transportation companies that we need changes......OoooooKkkkkk!
 
Skeeter said:
I don't believe I've ever said we have the best and brightest management in the industry. However, any transition is messy. Viking and AF wasn't without problems when FedEx merged them together.

Management should have a better handle on things. We shouldn't be 1000 bills behind in Fontana. But UPS will in time straighten management and the company out.

We are not even two months old {UPSF}
Give it some time mellow out MC people I agree with most of you but I also think it is all going to work out.

P.S. I think we all have a very bright future.:bgroovy:


You take a pay cut yet Sunshine....You been forced to add 3 hours a night to your run????? You had your bid changed with out knowing? YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!!! You only see what is out your windshield and you got the gahonies to tell someone to chill out!!!!
 
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