SAIA LTL FREIGHT

Discussion in 'New Penn' started by runawaytrain, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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    Not that I care what SAIA does or what their hiring policies are but there does seem to be something to their “no teamsters policy” when they opened in New Jersey one of our very good drivers applied who I thought was a very good candidate and would easily be hired and was told by our former operations manager who became TM at SAIA NJ he would love to bring him over but no Teamsters could be hired.
    When SAIA was in the planning stages of the expansion I was told by a Teamster Bussiness Agent that he had a conversation with a former New Penn VP who went to SAIA that some locals were gearing up to attempt to unionize SAIA that former VP became some type of regional manager at SAIA, so perhaps that is why they put a no teamster policy in place.
     
  2. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    That does make sense. The Teamsters that I know that were hired had been out of the business awhile and some weren’t even in LTL. They were former Teamsters and not current members. I think SAIA is very aware about the Teamsters plan to organize and is very concerned about “salt” being placed inside the corporation. IMO SAIA would shut down the entire N.E. and close the expansion before they ever let the Teamsters in. This companies growth depends on staying union free so they can compete with Old Dominion the leader in today’s LTL market.
     
  3. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    Slave, I’m not here to turn this thread into a union vs non-union thread. I’m just stating the way things are at SAIA. I understand the culture here and “it is what it is” and you can’t change it. You can only accept it. There are good and bad on both sides of this argument. I understand how passionate you are on this subject and I understand your side. I understand your views on religion and politics because I’ve read enough of your post. I won’t get into a pissing contest with you. We could never agree on many issues. All I’m truly saying is sometimes you must just accept things as they are. Because no amount of bitching and complaining will change anything. Whether it’s New Penn or SAIA let’s just agree to let the sleeping dogs lie. We are just a small fish in a big pond and ultimately insignificant. In the final analysis and to sum up my point let me say this. No matter how much loyalty you show any company or organization such as the Teamsters just know your place. If you become any sort of liability you will be dismissed in the blink of an eye. Know your place Slave. Just know your place. It’s a dog eat dog world and take no prisoners world and in the end it’s every man for himself. Don’t be blindsided when you get thrown under the bus by something or someone that you thought had your back.
     
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  4. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the hub. Columbia SC sir hub is begging for feeders team and solo. A lot from package won’t switch to feeders due to nights and lose bidding seniority when switching classification.
     
  5. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    It’s all about working days for most. It’s not always about money. It’s about being happy and having a life. I understand what your saying but in Dallas things are completely different. You pay serious dues to get those jobs.
     
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  6. Gto561

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    definitely sounds like Newton to me
     
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  7. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Train, you know the old saying, opinions are like buttholes, I just wonder where trucking would be today, if back in the 50s
    we had your "must accept things as they are, let sleeping dogs lie attitude?" Guess we just didn't know our place.
     
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  8. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Old Dominion is building a new terminal in Reading also..It's at I-176 and 422....Yippee....more jobs where guys let only their bosses join unions....Republican think tanks.And they never bitch about paying dues to those political clubs either....but good lord them union dues will kill the working man........no wonder this nation is in the shape it's in.........we all need people like YRC putting the whole nation in debt.....oh that's right....they already have......business friendly nonunion has brought us $20 trillion in debt as a nation and more people in personal debt than ever great.as the union numbers go down....the banks make a killing...that's why they get all the big government cabinet spots in DC.......they don't seem to talk about that too much when coming in to bust the unions though,,,,,only how great they are.
     
  9. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    It's dog-eat-dog because we have allowed it to become that way.....and the more people thought that way....the more we ended up right where we are..
    Bringing SAIA into a New Penn thread automatically made it a union vs nonunion thread...All of our terminals are in closed shop states.
    SAIA has your back even less than the Teamsters have ours.
    And having more and more companies like SAIA around makes it very difficult for us to have each others backs.
    Our dues go to lobbies so that we can continue having a union.....and as more companies come in....more of our politicians take the companies filthy money and start working for them....and working for them doesn't always work out so great for us....they've been doing it for decades now since deregulation....and realistically look at what has happened to our government and our workforces......nothing any good for us....plenty good for Wall street...and the banks...and the politicians who take their money....but not for the rest of us.....they hook you slowly on the nonunion dope....a little bit here and a little bit there and you feel a little good....and more and more and more......until it totally takes you over and does whatever it wants with you...making you sick and changing how you think about everything.......When they finally wipe us out...we'll find out how really good it was for us...So far the numbers aren't good for the junk.......driver shortage....nobody wants to do it...pensions gone...debt in our companies.debt in our families..debt in our cities...debt in our states.....whilst the top has no problems at all.
     
  10. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    Our line drivers can make 100K+ a year or more. City can be around 80K depending on how many hours you want to work. Not bad for a blue collar worker. If you wanted big money you should have stayed in college or just been more aggressive. Don’t blame the man. Blame yourself. The money is there for everyone to take if your aggressive in nature. Stop blaming the government for everything. Most millionaires started with nothing. You have such a victimized mentality.
     
  11. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The college kids have been duped.....I knew it was gonna happen when they tried to sell it to me years ago...it's all about the banks.
    You make 100k now.......but the dope ain't finished yet...it's still giving out good feelings....they end when we re gone....not long after.
    Not everybody is gonna be a millionaire...I don't expect it.....but plenty of millionares got to be millionares by taking from us by talking thru people like you.........if somehow by miracle, trucking was regulated again and your company becomes unionized....I surely don't want to hear you playing victim and blaming the government.
     
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  12. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The theories ain't working anymore.......the college thing....the economic theory of supply and demand that we were fed.....did wages go up during the driver shortage?
    Looks like a lot of people fell victim to another lying theory designed by and for the top.
    I wouldn't be able to live with myself if making my millions meant taking the wages down on 20,000 hardworking people.....nor would I if I highjacked their governments with my profits just so I could have more whilst taking even more than I already did, by busting their unions.
    Money's not everything......we should make more....but not enough to sell our souls to Hell for.
     
  13. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    Cry me a river Slave. Go cry to Hoffa for presenting you that last contract. You bought it hook, line and sinker and then voted on it. Do you really think things will be different this next time around? They may make some concessions but it won’t be enough. And will you have enough balls to strike? Not likely because that would seal your fate when all the competition grabs up your freight. Face it Slave, your screwed either way. And most of the blame is on your beloved Hoffa. Not the government. Try and sell your conspiracy theories to those that refuse to stand their ground.
     
  14. runawaytrain

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    Hoffa Jr. sold you out. You have no choice but to accept things as they are. Breeze you need to stop living in the past. Junior is not his Daddy. The glory days are long long gone. This is 2018 and it might pay you to remember that.
     
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  15. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    There's reasons why we exist....and when you nonunion people following the corporate ideology get your way.....the reasons will most probably return.
    The little number of us left are stopping that imo...and when we decide to quit stopping it or your corporate and investor leaders decide they are tired of waiting and stop us from being able to stop it....eventually it will come again.

    New Penn has always been a contradiction to the lie that unions destroy companies....it wasn't us who brought us here...but it is us who helped them stick around a little longer...even though it is a lousy situation. And take note that I said we are in only closed shop states....no scabs who don't pay dues are here like in right-to-work states....so that is not a necessary requirement to be successful in business.
     
  16. runawaytrain

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    Slave this is the bottom line. This industry is predominantly non-union for a reason. The Teamsters have failed as an organization. Poor leadership at the top has led to their demise. They have sold the members out and it hasn’t went unnoticed. It’s hard to sell a defective product. All the corruption and mismanagement throughout the years has finally taken it’s toll. When their campaign was lost at FedEx their fate was sealed in LTL. They will never gain another major LTL player.
     
  17. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Not sure how Jr sold me out, I was retired 9 yrs before he was elected, our choice was not to accept things as they were.
    That's why you can live the present as you do now.
    I do remember this is 2018, I have not missed a check in 28 yrs, I hope in your glory years, you can look back and say the same.
    But you need to stop blowing those stop signs!
     
  18. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    Perhaps they didn’t sell you out personally. It was the ones that came after you. As far as the stop signs you are correct. I will retire this year with my IRA and my wife’s 401K and I’m very certain I won’t run out of money before my death.
     
  19. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    I'm not sure of that if you don't leave your wife's money alone.
     
  20. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    Not sure if you have children but let me ask you this. When you die will your children get your pension? I think we both know the answer to that question.
     

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