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slimestones said:
he won't admit we went from vacation banked to earned without paying us for what was BANKED ALREADY!he and merdock are geniuses,not,and they don't understand if you get to the fac 20 minutes earlier,then you are on the dock clock another 20 minutes a day,about 2 hours a week about $50 a week,like i said they're geniuses,as for the bonuses geniuses,before 62mpn we got an icp check,possibly 7% of your pay $3000,which we hit several times,now we get the vpp looks like around $600 before taxes,whoohooo,whoever sold themselves out to be on that video is a tool,hey that was probably beerfd
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Could've been merdock, he works up that way. The guy in the video was kinda overdoing it just a bit.
 
Merdock said:
I love how you only hear what you want. You are getting paid by the mile, so why would they pay you more to run 65 mph? To run 3 mph faster you would actually save the company money because you would get there quicker and spend more time on the reship dock. 8 hours non-stop? No breaks, no lunch? You must love your job to work that hard. An 8 hour run is about a 420 mile turn. 210 each way with a more accurate average speed start to stop of about 52 mph. So try doing the math again only this time without the calculator supplied by Chicken Little.
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ok say a driver uses 12 hours a day everyday @62 mph it takes 8 1/2 hours to get to & from destination that leaves 3 1/2 hours of straight time a day. @ 65 mph the run takes 8 hours that gives 4 of straight time everyday @ top scale (central payscale) that is $11.77 a day or $58.87 a week more pay or $2826 a year with 4 weeks of vacation time.
this is done on a regular calculator.
spending more time on the dock does not save conway $$$.
hope this helps you understand.
 
Aggressor said:
ok say a driver uses 12 hours a day everyday @62 mph it takes 8 1/2 hours to get to & from destination that leaves 3 1/2 hours of straight time a day. @ 65 mph the run takes 8 hours that gives 4 of straight time everyday @ top scale (central payscale) that is $11.77 a day or $58.87 a week more pay or $2826 a year with 4 weeks of vacation time.
this is done on a regular calculator.
spending more time on the dock does not save conway $$$.
hope this helps you understand.
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They could turn the trucks up to 70, and somebody would start a thread with a magic calculator that would show how con way is still screwing them. It is what it is.. deal with it. Be glad you make good money.and get all your vacation everyweek..
 
beerfd said:
They could turn the trucks up to 70, and somebody would start a thread with a magic calculator that would show how con way is still screwing them. It is what it is.. deal with it. Be glad you make good money.and get all your vacation everyweek..
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I have now officially turned my frown upside down.

'atta boy..
 
beerfd said:
They could turn the trucks up to 70, and somebody would start a thread with a magic calculator that would show how con way is still screwing them. It is what it is.. deal with it. Be glad you make good money.and get all your vacation everyweek..
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I did not use a magic calculator, however I think they have one at the crystal palace.
 
Merdock said:
I love how you only hear what you want. You are getting paid by the mile, so why would they pay you more to run 65 mph? To run 3 mph faster you would actually save the company money because you would get there quicker and spend more time on the reship dock. 8 hours non-stop? No breaks, no lunch? You must love your job to work that hard. An 8 hour run is about a 420 mile turn. 210 each way with a more accurate average speed start to stop of about 52 mph. So try doing the math again only this time without the calculator supplied by Chicken Little.

And it was the option of installing the larger motor with more weight that would cause more tire wear on the steers.
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Typical management response...clueless.

This LTL company as all others base their success (or lack thereof) on service.

What these clowns do not want to acknowlwdge is the fact that 62 MPH in a 65 MPH zone driving a commercial vehicle zone is dangerous. That 62 MPH vehicle is a road hazard...forced to make as much time as possible forced to deal with other vehicles rated at much higher speeeds. In the hills and mountains it is even more dangerous...the 62 MPH vehicle cannot maintain the necessary speed to climb the offending grade and therefore further becomes a hazard to other vehicles occupying the same roadway.

And forget the manufacturers specifications regarding power curves and gear ratios...those tests are performed under laboratory conditions and under the most optimized environs....all done to sell their wares to prospective buyers. They are NOT real world applications.

Then there is the fatigue factor...driving at slower speeds hour after hour than those around you is very tiring and stressful and it plays on the driver. The driver is simply trying to get from point A to B...doing the best they can with whatever piece of equipment they have available.

You management types have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of what it takes to operate a commercial vehicle in the time periods a linehaul driver must contend with on a daily basis. Fatigue and boredom exacerbated by cut back equipment extended drive times is inheritantly dangerous...

But God forbid that selfsame driver should have an accident or worse a rollover and you jackwagons are more than happy to put them to the street in favor of your new found god...the CSA.

In order to keep the government out of the corporate office and suffer the indignation of intervention you would rather destroy the career of any offending driver.

All you mangement types understand is numbers...and those numbers are generated in computers and simulations...not applicable in the real world...

For those that were around for the cutback...it was about being 'green'...being politically correct...about making the buying public believe that Con-Way was on the cuttting edge of conservation...they even got recognition from one of the most liberal idiots in Washington...a politician from Michigan no less.

So try doing the math again only this time without the calculator supplied by Chicken Little...

Rat

PS...get out of the office and ride with your 420 mile per night driver for a month...then come back here with a real knowledge of the things he/she deals with on a daily basis...then you may have some credibility.
 
Rat said:
Typical management response...clueless.

This LTL company as all others base their success (or lack thereof) on service.

What these clowns do not want to acknowlwdge is the fact that 62 MPH in a 65 MPH zone driving a commercial vehicle zone is dangerous. That 62 MPH vehicle is a road hazard...forced to make as much time as possible forced to deal with other vehicles rated at much higher speeeds. In the hills and mountains it is even more dangerous...the 62 MPH vehicle cannot maintain the necessary speed to climb the offending grade and therefore further becomes a hazard to other vehicles occupying the same roadway.

And forget the manufacturers specifications regarding power curves and gear ratios...those tests are performed under laboratory conditions and under the most optimized environs....all done to sell their wares to prospective buyers. They are NOT real world applications.

Then there is the fatigue factor...driving at slower speeds hour after hour than those around you is very tiring and stressful and it plays on the driver. The driver is simply trying to get from point A to B...doing the best they can with whatever piece of equipment they have available.

You management types have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of what it takes to operate a commercial vehicle in the time periods a linehaul driver must contend with on a daily basis. Fatigue and boredom exacerbated by cut back equipment extended drive times is inheritantly dangerous...

But God forbid that selfsame driver should have an accident or worse a rollover and you jackwagons are more than happy to put them to the street in favor of your new found god...the CSA.

In order to keep the government out of the corporate office and suffer the indignation of intervention you would rather destroy the career of any offending driver.

All you mangement types understand is numbers...and those numbers are generated in computers and simulations...not applicable in the real world...

For those that were around for the cutback...it was about being 'green'...being politically correct...about making the buying public believe that Con-Way was on the cuttting edge of conservation...they even got recognition from one of the most liberal idiots in Washington...a politician from Michigan no less.

So try doing the math again only this time without the calculator supplied by Chicken Little...

Rat

PS...get out of the office and ride with your 420 mile per night driver for a month...then come back here with a real knowledge of the things he/she deals with on a daily basis...then you may have some credibility.
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All companies have accidents at all types of speeds. You know that.. i don't like the 62 mph, but i deal with it. Not that big a deal.
 
Rat said:
Typical management response...clueless.

This LTL company as all others base their success (or lack thereof) on service.

What these clowns do not want to acknowlwdge is the fact that 62 MPH in a 65 MPH zone driving a commercial vehicle zone is dangerous. That 62 MPH vehicle is a road hazard...forced to make as much time as possible forced to deal with other vehicles rated at much higher speeeds. In the hills and mountains it is even more dangerous...the 62 MPH vehicle cannot maintain the necessary speed to climb the offending grade and therefore further becomes a hazard to other vehicles occupying the same roadway.

And forget the manufacturers specifications regarding power curves and gear ratios...those tests are performed under laboratory conditions and under the most optimized environs....all done to sell their wares to prospective buyers. They are NOT real world applications.

Then there is the fatigue factor...driving at slower speeds hour after hour than those around you is very tiring and stressful and it plays on the driver. The driver is simply trying to get from point A to B...doing the best they can with whatever piece of equipment they have available.

You management types have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of what it takes to operate a commercial vehicle in the time periods a linehaul driver must contend with on a daily basis. Fatigue and boredom exacerbated by cut back equipment extended drive times is inheritantly dangerous...

But God forbid that selfsame driver should have an accident or worse a rollover and you jackwagons are more than happy to put them to the street in favor of your new found god...the CSA.

In order to keep the government out of the corporate office and suffer the indignation of intervention you would rather destroy the career of any offending driver.

All you mangement types understand is numbers...and those numbers are generated in computers and simulations...not applicable in the real world...

For those that were around for the cutback...it was about being 'green'...being politically correct...about making the buying public believe that Con-Way was on the cuttting edge of conservation...they even got recognition from one of the most liberal idiots in Washington...a politician from Michigan no less.

So try doing the math again only this time without the calculator supplied by Chicken Little...

Rat

PS...get out of the office and ride with your 420 mile per night driver for a month...then come back here with a real knowledge of the things he/she deals with on a daily basis...then you may have some credibility.
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Excellent Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All True
 
This cracks me up,some of you worked here during the strike and remember how Conway turned a blind eye to our log books and we were running double turns and did what ever it took to move all that freight,so just remember its all about what is best for Conway at the time. CSA could vanish tomorrow and the driving rules changed to 13 hrs. driving, you can bet your a$$ you'd be driving 13 whether safe or not.
Zipper said:
ya, like he says '"deal with it",continue to be a safety hazard on the highway
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Never say never said:
This cracks me up,some of you worked here during the strike and remember how Conway turned a blind eye to our log books and we were running double turns and did what ever it took to move all that freight,so just remember its all about what is best for Conway at the time. CSA could vanish tomorrow and the driving rules changed to 13 hrs. driving, you can bet your a$$ you'd be driving 13 whether safe or not.
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if the law changed to 13, then all companies would do it.. duh!
I love you people trying to point out bad stuff.. and don't think it happens at other companies.. you've even got people who don't even work here anymore commenting. And they don't know anything.. Haha. Just following all the hype.

Isn't this fun.
 
beerfd said:
omg. Now its a safety hazard...i thought the driver losing money was the problem??
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62mph under optimum conditions. Encounter a 3% grade, and it's 50mph. Speed limit in TX is being upped to 75. Running 25mph slower than traffic is a safety hazard!
 
snaildriver said:
62mph under optimum conditions. Encounter a 3% grade, and it's 50mph. Speed limit in TX is being upped to 75. Running 25mph slower than traffic is a safety hazard!
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Omg.. ok. Up the speed to 65 and you will be going 53 mph.. are you serious?? That what you want...
You want a bigger motor? Can't do it.. these folks would be asking why spend the money..why not a raise.. never make everybody happy.. only half.
 
You missed the whole point DUH!! Where in the world did they get this guy,I sure hope he does'nt reproduce. Your the type of person my Momma told me about many years ago,if three people jumped off a bridge you'd follow,because they did it.
beerfd said:
if the law changed to 13, then all companies would do it.. duh!
I love you people trying to point out bad stuff.. and don't think it happens at other companies.. you've even got people who don't even work here anymore commenting. And they don't know anything.. Haha. Just following all the hype.

Isn't this fun.
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