ABF | Wow! People. This isn't 1978
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If you are gonna vote yes quit and stop by Conway an pick up an app you'll love it over there.
I have spoken so let it be done.
I agree with you 068man, if the company wants to extract Hoffa, Johnson, Sweeton, and your head out of their butt, they shouldn't go to the dentist, they should go to a proctologist. If you have anymore important questions about freight, ask a accountant, they'll never lie to you.
joes bar and grill
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And you know the name of the game because you are so wise and educated oh mighty trucker?
You're not a driver. You're another management planted here. "Don't vote no just quit" we had yellow management blabbing the same bs at us when we were voting too. You're probably the dispatcher you are talking about.
I don't think that manager will be getting a ballot....
Weathermen go to college for 4 years too and most couldn't predict a sunrise. But they know how to use a green screen and that's what counts.
You have spoken? Who are you? God?
endorsed by the international this contract will pass 2 to 1 regardless of all the no voters on here. most of the guys will be talking trash but are gutless to actually vote no on their bread and butter. besdes there has never been a contract voted down in the history of the nmfa, and eveyone i spoke to never voted yes on those either.
It isn't 2008 either & that's where my salary would be rolling back too. btw I have a 4 year degree from the Boston College & the Jesuits taught me critical thinking & to ask questions & not take things at face value . it also taught me which side of the window to work for in the transportation industry which was the wicked smartest decision I ever made. 33 years teamster proud
What about the giveback vote....
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I think 068man is really stoney. He is blogging..yep, it's really stoney at the local library. He is even replying to 068man to throw everyone off track. Read the posts...company is great...we should vote yes ...dispatchers are smart and wise....you guys are just greedy...if you don't vote yes then we will all be out of a job... yep, it's really stoney.....I'm still voting no.
Why would I do that?
I voted yes at YRC, and i sure am sorry i did. I don't believe for one second, that ABF is in trouble. If you vote yes, they will only ask for more....trust me.
that was not not a contract vote.
But it was a vote & it counted...
I know right??? LMFAO he is a hoot.
He's like my dispatcher said this is a good deal.
Oh yea dispatchers never lie.
My old dispatchers screen saver was the lie he repeated the most
" should be there anytime now"
True but this really isn't the NMFA anymore and ABF is voting alone. You can't really compare this to any vote but the giveback because we're alone.
The key is highlighted in red. Nobody thinks ABF is in the same condition as YRCF. And this TA is an attempt to keep ABF from going where YRCF is now. MONEY PEOPLE MAKING OPERATIONAL DECISIONS!
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In my opinion, we're all being suckered. You don't give a company a 5 year contract if they're claiming financial troubles. Internal financial troubles have nothing to do with the economy, and everything to do with mis-management. You negotiate a one year or two year agreement,...see if they're turning around. A short agreement helps both sides. There's no such thing as "buying labor peace" with a longer agreement,....our last contract is proof of that when they asked us to re-negotiate two years into it. Don't repeat past errors. ABF is not negotiating for financial troubles now,......they are negotiating for a cheap and captive workforce 5 years into the future....contractually locked. Drivers' wages will go up,...it's inevitable,....and ABF wants to be the cheapest player in about 3 years with a locked-in workforce,....they'll be the rate-cutters, then, as non-Union carriers scramble to raise wages to keep drivers leaving and keep turnover rates low. A 5 year agreement is your first tip off, guys. No financially troubled company negotiates for 5 years, and no Union so-called "negotiator" locks in the membership for 5 years when the economy is on the verge of heating up. Read the Teamsters' own talking points. They recognize trucking has an older workforce than any other occupation,....and no apprentice program to bring in new drivers. Open the papers and see how bad the Truckload carriers are screaming for drivers.......they can't get them. As the economy gradually gets better,.....entry-level trucking is no longer the only option for laid-off people.....this is happening now. A coming driver shortage will drive pay sky high.......and we'll have voted ourselves into indentured servitude for 5 years. VOTE NO!