Obviously I’m not a business man but IMO they should have kept the companies apart to operate on their own with exception of the Yeller / roadway merge. Allowing Holland,Reddaway and NP to interline their freight into YRC when necessary.
:.I'm guessing that companies that grow organically and who start off doing both regional and long haul can certainly operate successfully. In Yellow's situation they were trying to combine two different cultures who were often set in their own ways of doing business. I'm reasonably sure that factored into the difficulties they had when attempting to bring everything together.
Absolutely agree. I’m a Reddaway guy out west. I’m caught up in this mess too. Business wise I don’t think it’ll hurt IBT to lose Yellow.
Absolutely. I’ve been calling it the “Culture”. The culture needs to change. They/We couldn’t figure that out. Plus the gross bleeding of money via stupid ass bonuses lol From what I’ve learned the corporate never new how to succeed.
It was a flawed plan. They knew where they wanted go but the route they chose to get there was horrible.
More like 5 cultures. Not 2.
I disagree.
You don’t know enough of the storyWow!! 22,000 members lose their jobs and they can't even pretend that they care? Years and years of paying dues to this organization, and this is what we get?
I don’t recall that I ever “bashed” Yellow in any way. I have bashed the management of Yellow starting with Zollars. Over paying for other companies with borrowed money just to be the biggest is a recipe for disaster IMO. He not only brought down Yellow, but Roadway, Holland, New Penn, Reddaway, and all of their subsidiaries as well.Gave you a "LOVE" for this post. Not that I agree with it, just that it is well written. You ABF guys sure are touchy. After months of coming in here bashing Yellow a one sentence post questioning the wisdom of the generous recent ABF contract sets off a :::
Exactly that’s what ups freight was doing behind the scenes for 15 years. Wasn’t until the ceo carol tome actually stated it did anyone believe it…!!
Highly doubt anyone will praise O'Brien for ending Yellow. When people are made to be unemployed, regardless of who's at fault, it's not something to pat yourself on the back about
Forgot Glen Moore and USF Distribution
I don’t recall you bashing Yeller BUT I do recall your eyes opening wider then ever a few years ago when their was a BS rumor of a possible Yellow /ABF buy out.
From the outside ABF looks to be a good company with many fine hard working people. Drivers I’ve met along my route are top of the line hope the sky never falls on them.
They were playing a game with the operating companies with the merge. Wherever the local contract/dispatch rules were favourable to them that would be the ”surviving company” for that terminal. The designated terminals with dock work were all going to be Reddaway, Holland a New Penn under their work rules while the YRC terminals were to be no dock work unless they had a Utility driver section. The follow the work rules that they proposed were never going to stand. It was a pipe dream for the company.
Wouldn't you expect any company to try and optimize any changes so as to be more beneficial to the bottom line?
Actually the destination/ dock terminals were Yellow/roadway terminals.
That's right man! You showed them. There will be no road drivers working the dock at Yellow. No road drivers will be building sets at Yellow. Yellow was playing a game but you win, Congratulations!
I can’t figure out how you think I won anything, I’m just a working grunt like the others. I’m north of the border so all the crap that happened south of me was out of my control. When I ran the road we had to hook and split our own sets unless there was no yard guy in Toronto and we just dropped our power in Buffalo and Toledo and hooked to prestrung sets there. Never had to work the dock as the smaller terminals had dock guys to unload or load freight if we had a split load to carry on through to destination.
The point of my comment was they were playing the operating companies against each other using the favourable local rules to decide which company the terminal fell under. The companies 1960 style hub and spoke system and the Unions 1950’s work rules were very much outdated and were in dire need of changing to 21st century reality. The changes on both sides were desperately needed but you can’t have it all in one shot. These changes should have been done on stretched out period but the company wanted it all at once.Wouldn't you expect any company to try and optimize any changes so as to be more beneficial to the bottom line?
They would of optimized senior men with 5 weeks plus vacation and seniority rights out the window. That was the plan. The majority of workers left would of been asking “what good was having a union”? Teamsters weren’t going to let a cancer in the industry violate what they stood for. Anyone who disagrees this company was a cancer is fooling themselves. One by one they killed the strongest union players in the LTL freight market. All viable companies. Maybe we should be making stickers of Zollars, Welch, and Hawkins with the caption I DID THAT! They did do that! The 700 million was the nail in the coffin. No coming back from it.Wouldn't you expect any company to try and optimize any changes so as to be more beneficial to the bottom line?
