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6PakAbs said:
Bubba Gump is a name that I haven't seen on the board for a while. Was he banned/booted off or did he just ASSume another screen name? Wow, back in the day, he could be brutal...
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The only time I would listen or post with or about Bubba is when he gave me 4 grand a month to cover my expenses. So far, he has not offered me any money for my bills. Stay tuned, things can change. von.
 
seabreeze said:
I sure miss ole Gooberlip, if that boy ever posted the truth, I'm sure he would come back and apologize.
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I can see that I am not the only one that had "feelings" for the trash talk from Bubba.
I heard that since he knows so much about the trucking/transportation industry, he
might have a position in the Biddin' My Time Administration as a ASSistant to Mayor Pete?
"Position" would be a good term under Mayor Pete...(if you know what I mean?)
 
6PakAbs said:
I can see that I am not the only one that had "feelings" for the trash talk from Bubba.
I heard that since he knows so much about the trucking/transportation industry, he
might have a position in the Biddin' My Time Administration as a ASSistant to Mayor Pete?
"Position" would be a good term under Mayor Pete...(if you know what I mean?)
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I think I know, but please, give us more detail for those who flunked biology. von.
 
hangbelly said:
All this is true, RB. The great leveling is happening as we speak. America must be debased so that we will be compatible with the rest of the world. They call it the great reset, as though it is something we should be looking forward to... Can you imagine the brazen arrogance of these POS when they say " You will own nothing and be happy"? The 1% don't intend to participate though. They will be positioned to scoop up the wreckage at fire sale prices, while we are struggling just to survive. I fail to see the reason for your enthusiasm for this though. You just seem to be blaming organized labor for all this, when the real reasons are orders of magnitude greater and well planned out. Anyway, I do enjoy your posts. They make me think...
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None of you see or maybe it's just refusing to admit that socialism and unions both claim to be the champion of the working class. The whole idea that there is a class of people that does all the work and creates all the wealth is ridiculous. Socialism claims that all labor and all work is of equal value. Socialism believes that there should be no corporate profit and any corporate surplus actually belongs to the employees. Unions are no different. There is no incentive for individual work ethic or any need to do more than the minimum required. The wages are the same for those who take pride in their performance and the guy who just shows up. How many times do we read on this board that a company can afford to pay more simply because they have profits? A job is not worth more simply because a company has a profit. My neighbor owes me nothing just because he has more than I do. The current union model rewards nothing but seniority. Unions encourage, support and demand mediocrity. Mediocrity will not lead to an America that leads the world.
 
ABF381 said:
Yup and you say that as a guy who collected $750,000....I have asked you this before with no answer but I will ask you again with a hypothetical....say there is a guy who has been in the fund for 15 years and he is 15 years till he retires with his 30. The fund comes out and says we are going to be insolvent in 10 years...so you think he should get nothing for what he has contributed and nothing for the next ten years as he contributes?
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Yes! If that guy is entitled to anything, it should come from the union that negotiated a contract requiring an employer to put money into a fund not the taxpayer. There are avenues available to individuals to provide for their retirement. Choosing not to avail yourself of those is a personal decision. Life is all about choices. A responsible adult with a good income, has no excuse for reaching retirement age with any outstanding debt. If necessary, I can live on nothing but Social Security.
If your home burns to the ground and you are uninsured, does the government owe you a new home.
 
Razorblade said:
Yes! If that guy is entitled to anything, it should come from the union that negotiated a contract requiring an employer to put money into a fund not the taxpayer. There are avenues available to individuals to provide for their retirement. Choosing not to avail yourself of those is a personal decision. Life is all about choices. A responsible adult with a good income, has no excuse for reaching retirement age with any outstanding debt. If necessary, I can live on nothing but Social Security.
If your home burns to the ground and you are uninsured, does the government owe you a new home.
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You responded to posts from 12/7 & 12/8 of last year. Way to stay on top of things….
 
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Razorblade said:
Yes! If that guy is entitled to anything, it should come from the union that negotiated a contract requiring an employer to put money into a fund not the taxpayer. There are avenues available to individuals to provide for their retirement. Choosing not to avail yourself of those is a personal decision. Life is all about choices. A responsible adult with a good income, has no excuse for reaching retirement age with any outstanding debt. If necessary, I can live on nothing but Social Security.
If your home burns to the ground and you are uninsured, does the government owe you a new home.
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The government gives federal aid all the time to those in need from situations beyond their control Blade. Federal aid for those involved in the Colorado fires. Federal aid for those involved in the Kentucky tornadoes. They even bailed out the auto industry to help avoid the loss of thousands of jobs. Unemployment benefits for those between jobs is another example. The list goes on and on. I guess in your little world, there should be no help for those people either. An entire town wiped off the map in Kentucky by a tornado, and you think they should be left to fend for theirselves. I have said this before, but I will tell you once again. The government played a big roll in the underfunding of the CSPF with deregulation and killing once strong, healthy freight companies including the one that you invested 25 years of your life at. I know it will be hard for you to do, but try to have a little compassion for others.
 
Steward of the Rock said:
The government gives federal aid all the time to those in need from situations beyond their control Blade. Federal aid for those involved in the Colorado fires. Federal aid for those involved in the Kentucky tornadoes. They even bailed out the auto industry to help avoid the loss of thousands of jobs. Unemployment benefits for those between jobs is another example. The list goes on and on. I guess in your little world, there should be no help for those people either. An entire town wiped off the map in Kentucky by a tornado, and you think they should be left to fend for theirselves. I have said this before, but I will tell you once again. The government played a big roll in the underfunding of the CSPF with deregulation and killing once strong, healthy freight companies including the one that you invested 25 years of your life at. I know it will be hard for you to do, but try to have a little compassion for others.
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I guess if you can say anything good about RB, he keeps us from missing Bubba Gump.
 
Razorblade:
Me too. Preston even paid health and welfare and pension through the WARN act period.

The above statement is one that you yourself posted on the Central forum. You do of course realize that the Warn Act is a program provided by the US Department of Labor. Yet you had no problem accepting the fact that the WARN act helped you to get your health&welfare and your pension paid for during this time. You should practice what you preach Blade.
 
Razorblade said:
Yes! If that guy is entitled to anything, it should come from the union that negotiated a contract requiring an employer to put money into a fund not the taxpayer. There are avenues available to individuals to provide for their retirement. Choosing not to avail yourself of those is a personal decision. Life is all about choices. A responsible adult with a good income, has no excuse for reaching retirement age with any outstanding debt. If necessary, I can live on nothing but Social Security.
If your home burns to the ground and you are uninsured, does the government owe you a new home.
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That reply is full of baloney and you know it.....the government is requiring the employer to put that money in the fund, not the union, even when it is known a fund is going to be insolvent....the contract requiring the employer to put the money in there was done well before any fund was going insolvent. The government finally acted on it by letting funds cut payouts, but it was too late for many funds, especially central states.... It was government inaction that led to the bailout...
 
ABF381 said:
That reply is full of baloney and you know it.....the government is requiring the employer to put that money in the fund, not the union, even when it is known a fund is going to be insolvent....the contract requiring the employer to pute money in there was done well before any fund was going insolvent. The government finally acted on it by letting funds cut payouts, but it was too late for many funds, especially central states.... It was government inaction that led to the bailout...
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You are delusional. There is no federal law or regulation requiring any employer to fund employee retirement. Pension funds are independent, nonprofit corporations that can be dissolved at any time as many have. The labor agreement could have required employers to put that money into 401K or individual employer pension plans (UPS) or do away with pension funds altogether.
 
Razorblade said:
You are delusional. There is no federal law or regulation requiring any employer to fund employee retirement. Pension funds are independent, nonprofit corporations that can be dissolved at any time as many have. The labor agreement could have required employers to put that money into 401K or individual employer pension plans (UPS) or do away with pension funds altogether.
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Do away with a fund huh? What about withdrawal liabilities???? Could have been dissolved at any time??? Are you on drugs???? How many lawsuits would the fund have going if they tried that? I never said there was a federal law maybe you can show me where I said that...who is delusional now! The government is requiring the employer to put that money in or pay withdrawal liabilities...also as you would say coulda, shoulda ,woulda as far as a 401k, good Monday morning quarterbacking on your part blade....but it wasn't set up that way....and also nice non response to government inaction...
 
Steward of the Rock said:
The government gives federal aid all the time to those in need from situations beyond their control Blade. Federal aid for those involved in the Colorado fires. Federal aid for those involved in the Kentucky tornadoes. They even bailed out the auto industry to help avoid the loss of thousands of jobs. Unemployment benefits for those between jobs is another example. The list goes on and on. I guess in your little world, there should be no help for those people either. An entire town wiped off the map in Kentucky by a tornado, and you think they should be left to fend for theirselves. I have said this before, but I will tell you once again. The government played a big roll in the underfunding of the CSPF with deregulation and killing once strong, healthy freight companies including the one that you invested 25 years of your life at. I know it will be hard for you to do, but try to have a little compassion for others.
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CSPF and all the others including Western Pa., which cut my benefit by $10,000+ per year, were never underfunded. They were over promised. Yes, I have collected over $700,000 in my 18 years of retirement. That is over promising. Allowing 30 and out with full benefits is over promising. Million-dollar pensions for everyone is over promising. The government did not kill trucking companies. Competition, capitalism, the free market killed trucking companies. Removing socialist government control of transportation killed trucking companies AND gave birth to many more trucking companies and many more good jobs.
 
Razorblade said:
CSPF and all the others including Western Pa., which cut my benefit by $10,000+ per year, were never underfunded. They were over promised. Yes, I have collected over $700,000 in my 18 years of retirement. That is over promising. Allowing 30 and out with full benefits is over promising. Million-dollar pensions for everyone is over promising. The government did not kill trucking companies. Competition, capitalism, the free market killed trucking companies. Removing socialist government control of transportation killed trucking companies AND gave birth to many more trucking companies and many more good jobs.
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Once again a typical long winded non answer by our resident blowhard....
 
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