TForce | Our sick time is a joke!

You have to be out 4 days to get paid then you have to pay Aetna for your weekly deductions back or lose your benefits.After 5 days you get 100% of your pay for 4 weeks with a doctors note .Then after that you get paid 60% for the next four weeks...It's almost like short term disibility.....Then you need a return to work note from Rachael......This info was posted in HRS.
 
Johnnybegood said:
You have to be out 4 days to get paid then you have to pay Aetna for your weekly deductions back or lose your benefits.After 5 days you get 100% of your pay for 4 weeks with a doctors note .Then after that you get paid 60% for the next four weeks...It's almost like short term disibility.....Then you need a return to work note from Rachael......This info was posted in HRS.

JB, I kind of find that a little hard to believe. We have always given up the first 2 days. I was out several months after surgery. It's been quite a few years ago but they paid the monthly deductions and took them out of my check weekly when I got back to work.

I might add not all at once so it didn't hurt my pay check to bad.

I think UPS likes the way Overnite operates. You can tell by the way they left everything pretty much the same. We just changed colors.
 
Why give up any days ? With a strong contract, sick days and personal days are included as part of the overall package, at least in the NMFA. That is just one small part of the incentives and extra pay you would receive. How about delay time for unexpected road conditions ? Time lost at a terminal waiting for a load to close ?
How much are you willing to give up in order to remain defiant against union representation ?
Corporate America will gladly take whatever you don't stand up for and demand.
Stand up with all the other professional drivers .... stand up and be counted.
 
flstc2000 said:
Why give up any days ? With a strong contract, sick days and personal days are included as part of the overall package, at least in the NMFA. That is just one small part of the incentives and extra pay you would receive. How about delay time for unexpected road conditions ? Time lost at a terminal waiting for a load to close ?
How much are you willing to give up in order to remain defiant against union representation ?
Corporate America will gladly take whatever you don't stand up for and demand.
Stand up with all the other professional drivers .... stand up and be counted.

WOW! I never heard that before...:hysterical:
 
Skeeter said:
JB, I kind of find that a little hard to believe. We have always given up the first 2 days. I was out several months after surgery. It's been quite a few years ago but they paid the monthly deductions and took them out of my check weekly when I got back to work.

I might add not all at once so it didn't hurt my pay check to bad.

I think UPS likes the way Overnite operates. You can tell by the way they left everything pretty much the same. We just changed colors.
I don't find that hard to believe. I got my letter regarding sick pay and Aetna. LETS JUST WAIT FOR UPS TO DO THE RIGHT THING???????????????????
 
Johnnybegood said:
You have to be out 4 days to get paid then you have to pay Aetna for your weekly deductions back or lose your benefits.After 5 days you get 100% of your pay for 4 weeks with a doctors note .Then after that you get paid 60% for the next four weeks...It's almost like short term disibility.....Then you need a return to work note from Rachael......This info was posted in HRS.
JB, the way I understood it, is that when you are out on sick leave you will be billed for your medical deductions from your medical provider is this correct?
 
Pray for good health.20 yrs.,I've been blessed to never have..

needed to use any sick days.

I am woundering if we will still get our $50.00 per day at the end of the year,for not taking them?

I also know that its better than nothing receiving this $50.00 per day.

But most in my terminal used to be sick long enough with whatever,
so they always got a days pay for their time off.
 
Skeeter said:
I think UPS likes the way Overnite operates. You can tell by the way they left everything pretty much the same. We just changed colors.
Skeeter,
Man, you're all over the place.....yesterday you posted that you were ashamed of the way UPSF was operating......now you say you think that UPS is happy with the way UPSF is operating? So you're saying that you can see the truth and it shames you but UPS can't? They haven't had time to change things yet, but they will. It'll be a long process changing UPSF, slow and methodical, but they will change it.
 
Apostolic said:
needed to use any sick days.

I am woundering if we will still get our $50.00 per day at the end of the year,for not taking them?

I also know that its better than nothing receiving this $50.00 per day.

But most in my terminal used to be sick long enough with whatever,
so they always got a days pay for their time off.

NMFA calls for all unused sick days to be paid for with eight (8) hour at the applicable rate of pay on April 1st of every contract year.

Why settle for "better than nothing" as Apo says, when you can have the whole ball of wax.

Makes a nice extra check for all you healthy guys. Pads the vacation fund, the drinking fund, the gambling fund, the "little something on the side" fund.

Guess you have to be out a week to make a days pay the way it's done now.

Will the one day's pay pay for your med deductions for the week? Not to mention the lost week of wages.

T251
 
When I worked under a contract, I recived a total of 5 sick days as well as 3 personal days and 1 weeks vacation after only 1 year of service!!!! And...I didnt not have to give up any days without pay before I could use a sick day. AND...when I asked to have a sick day or a personal day..IT WAS GIVEN TO ME!

Im sorry, but the time off package this company has flat out sucks! They can pay me a little more than the NMFA, but I'll still sign a card just to get better time off...We get our butts kicked out here..P&D, Road, Dockmen...all the same. We all have days when our bodies just dont want to come to life, andboy wouldnt it be nice to just pick up the phone and say..."Hey, I can't make it in" and thats that!
 
Skeeter said:
JB, I kind of find that a little hard to believe. We have always given up the first 2 days. I was out several months after surgery. It's been quite a few years ago but they paid the monthly deductions and took them out of my check weekly when I got back to work.

I might add not all at once so it didn't hurt my pay check to bad.

I think UPS likes the way Overnite operates. You can tell by the way they left everything pretty much the same. We just changed colors.

He is not kidding , you have to be out for 3 day's to get paid for 1 . Atypical "O". For serious illness or injury you need a doctors note. then if you are going to be out for an extended period of time , then you must not only call etna everyday you are going to be out (somehow) illness or disability, but they are the only people who can release you, even if you have a release form from your doctor, So if Etna finds they do not feel you can report back to work regardless as to what your doctor say's, they do not have to let you back to work. Then yes your taxes and deductions must be taken out by you. We did see the memo that was'nt on company letterhead to boot, and there was no meeting about this change. This sheet was just thrown on the breakroom table. Sucks!!!!! After calling HR we find it to be true , Give it a call, you shall see. How much more can we get frazzled with!!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
stldude44 said:
Skeeter,
Man, you're all over the place.....yesterday you posted that you were ashamed of the way UPSF was operating......now you say you think that UPS is happy with the way UPSF is operating? So you're saying that you can see the truth and it shames you but UPS can't? They haven't had time to change things yet, but they will. It'll be a long process changing UPSF, slow and methodical, but they will change it.

Just making sure you are paying attention. I'm out west and yes I am ashamed of the way they OVNT management is doing things.

That will never change till they get new management or make the correct changes.

I have to check into the sick leave issue. But if it truly is as these guys have described the I will lean toward the union. That will be the last straw for me. They haven't even announce that. {IF IT IS TRUE}:ranting2:
 
Accelerator said:
He is not kidding , you have to be out for 3 day's to get paid for 1 . Atypical "O". For serious illness or injury you need a doctors note. then if you are going to be out for an extended period of time , then you must not only call etna everyday you are going to be out (somehow) illness or disability, but they are the only people who can release you, even if you have a release form from your doctor, So if Etna finds they do not feel you can report back to work regardless as to what your doctor say's, they do not have to let you back to work. Then yes your taxes and deductions must be taken out by you. We did see the memo that was'nt on company letterhead to boot, and there was no meeting about this change. This sheet was just thrown on the breakroom table. Sucks!!!!! After calling HR we find it to be true , Give it a call, you shall see. How much more can we get frazzled with!!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

Well, I know how things get twisted mainly on these boards. Lets see it in black and white shall we.:bicycle:
 
Accelerator said:
He is not kidding , you have to be out for 3 day's to get paid for 1 . Atypical "O". For serious illness or injury you need a doctors note. then if you are going to be out for an extended period of time , then you must not only call etna everyday you are going to be out (somehow) illness or disability, but they are the only people who can release you, even if you have a release form from your doctor, So if Etna finds they do not feel you can report back to work regardless as to what your doctor say's, they do not have to let you back to work. Then yes your taxes and deductions must be taken out by you. We did see the memo that was'nt on company letterhead to boot, and there was no meeting about this change. This sheet was just thrown on the breakroom table. Sucks!!!!! After calling HR we find it to be true , Give it a call, you shall see. How much more can we get frazzled with!!!!!

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

Lets see it in black and white shall we. PM me a copy of it.
 
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