I expected a response like that.
Let me tell you... it can get a whole hell of a lot worse... do you want to continue or do you just want to stroll on back home to Holland?
I expected a response like that.
Don't let them get to you. They didn't understand what I posted and it makes them angry.Do you and docker get off just insulting any one that post?
Don't let them get to you. They didn't understand what I posted and it makes them angry.
Don't let them get to you. They didn't understand what I posted and it makes them angry.
How about you try being a man for once instead of a wuss and tell me why you lied about me reporting you and pretending that you were going to get banned? Because right now... you are considered nothing but a POS!
Turncoat, you where correct only it was Docker that complained to Jeff not KK. I have to go before Jeff blocks me from coming back. It's pathetic that Docker had to report me to Jeff.
did not happen and you are not being blocked
Tell me... how do you guys treat liars over there at Holland?
Ignore them, they will go away.
if you interact with them it only embolden them
docker..please explain the "one cheek left"...I still have two and planning to bend over and let the upper mgmt kiss them!I don't know how to ignore and to tell you the truth... I really don't care to learn. Besides... I only have one good cheek left that I can use properly.
docker..please explain the "one cheek left"...I still have two and planning to bend over and let the upper mgmt kiss them!I don't know how to ignore and to tell you the truth... I really don't care to learn. Besides... I only have one good cheek left that I can use properly.
docker..please explain the "one cheek left"...I still have two and planning to bend over and let the upper mgmt kiss them!
Let me tell you... it can get a whole hell of a lot worse... do you want to continue or do you just want to stroll on back home to Holland?
Your a work of art, and I mean that as a compliment.
Wow... just WOW! You cant have read that back to yourself before you clicked the post button.Brother Canary, you are correct but you where also correct when you talked about annuity rates. I realize promises were made but things change. Life happens. Annuity rates go down. If you bought an annuity in the 1980's when interest rates where 14% to 15% you got a very good rate on your annuity. But, you buy one in April 2018 and you get much less. So, to complain that you were promised a pension amount when the interest rate was 14% but you want to collect it in 2018 at the same rate you were promised in the 1980's is ridiculous.
No I don’tDo you and docker get off just insulting any one that post?
I guess you haven’t read his post to us?Do you and docker get off just insulting any one that post?
Read my post above, it explains it allWow... just WOW! You cant have read that back to yourself before you clicked the post button.
But then again maybe I give you too much credit.
Brother Canary, you are correct but you where also correct when you talked about annuity rates. I realize promises were made but things change. Life happens. Annuity rates go down. If you bought an annuity in the 1980's when interest rates where 14% to 15% you got a very good rate on your annuity. But, you buy one in April 2018 and you get much less. So, to complain that you were promised a pension amount when the interest rate was 14% but you want to collect it in 2018 at the same rate you were promised in the 1980's is ridiculous.
Pearls of wisdom, canary! Thank you...you pretty much summed it up right there.Ahh,.....But any investor knows the market swings wildly through the decades,....and intelligent and hands-on management of any investment product is...de rigueur .
Any savvy investor holding a 15% annuity from the '80's,.....has definately diversified,...probably several times over. Standard investor practice...
But,....many of us chose MEPFs,...and defined-benefit retirement products,....purely because they were supposed to eliminate individual exposure to market risk,.....by spreading that risk through many companies, and a vast, churning pool of participants.....
Plus,..........MEPFs.....unlike individual investors......used professional services that could read market trends far, far more efficiently than a private investor, or a defined-contribution contributor.....(....a sheep-to-be-sheared......by Wall Street,...in My Opinion...)...
MEPFs are,.....and were,....the best choice for a working schlub like me.......Very little risk,.....and all the technical "investing" done for me by professionals. Precisely the reasons many companies joined MEPFs......decades ago.
However,....joining a MEPF is a LONG-TERM committment.....Has been, for decades. Saying that a corporation can....."shed"....it's long-term committment to it's employees,.....merely to increase it's own bottom line,........would be akin to your Life Insurance agent telling you,...after you made 25 years of payments to a Whole Life plan,.........that the "market has changed",.........and your survivors will only get a fourth of what you were promised....and PAID for.......
Would you feel cheated?
But if the companies participating in the MEPF die off, or if in the case of the teamsters, the union fails to replace participating members, the MEPF fails. Exactly what is happening to the teamster pensions.Ahh,.....But any investor knows the market swings wildly through the decades,....and intelligent and hands-on management of any investment product is...de rigueur .
Any savvy investor holding a 15% annuity from the '80's,.....has definately diversified,...probably several times over. Standard investor practice...
But,....many of us chose MEPFs,...and defined-benefit retirement products,....purely because they were supposed to eliminate individual exposure to market risk,.....by spreading that risk through many companies, and a vast, churning pool of participants.....
Plus,..........MEPFs.....unlike individual investors......used professional services that could read market trends far, far more efficiently than a private investor, or a defined-contribution contributor.....(....a sheep-to-be-sheared......by Wall Street,...in My Opinion...)...
MEPFs are,.....and were,....the best choice for a working schlub like me.......Very little risk,.....and all the technical "investing" done for me by professionals. Precisely the reasons many companies joined MEPFs......decades ago.
However,....joining a MEPF is a LONG-TERM committment.....Has been, for decades. Saying that a corporation can....."shed"....it's long-term committment to it's employees,.....merely to increase it's own bottom line,........would be akin to your Life Insurance agent telling you,...after you made 25 years of payments to a Whole Life plan,.........that the "market has changed",.........and your survivors will only get a fourth of what you were promised....and PAID for.......
Would you feel cheated?