as for my motive, i am just putting out some info so everyone has the a good perspective when the time comes to vote.
Why would a person who works for R&L be so worried about ABF and YRC Teamsters and their contract talks? Like I said before it seems to me like you have a big grudge against the union ex driver with 20 years service.as for my motive, i am just putting out some info so everyone has the a good perspective when the time comes to vote.
There are posters on some of the forums that have very big grudges against unions.Why would a person who works for R&L be so worried about ABF and YRC Teamsters and their contract talks? Like I said before it seems to me like you have a big grudge against the union ex driver with 20 years service.
There are posters on some of the forums that have very big grudges against unions.
if you have 30 yr and 65 YOU ARE SELFISH . go head vote no .I thank you because it will help me get back to work at yrc frieght
Great post!! Did you read that ex driver!Being in a Union operation is an intelligence test...especially in freight. After de-regulation caused many carriers to fall by the wayside, quite a few of us had many choices for employment, both Union and non-Union. If...you felt you were a pretty good driver, and you wanted the best wages, the best pension, and the best liability protection in the industry, you worked real hard to get hired by a union carrier. Sometimes you had to do it more than once,...but you felt you and your family deserved the best. However....if you are not qualified...or too stupid....or too ignorant....then you choose a carrier that pays less, has little or no pension, and will not put it in writing that when you have a legal problem doing your companies' business, they will take care of your court costs and liabilities up to and including paying your wage and keeping you on the payroll even if you lose your license. That's the "intelligence test" part. Many non-union drivers, when they finally realize they've failed the intelligence test in trucking, get a real big chip on their collective shoulder, and hope and pray that the Union carrier that refused to hire them goes bankrupt. Of course they don't realize that when the last union carrier bites the dust...then wages and benefits and conditions in the non-Union LTL side will start swirling round inside that big wage toilet bowl,..and down they go. Want proof? Look at the 100% non-Union truckload side. Near as I can figure out, the wages are averaging $11.00 an hour for a 70 hour work week. That's what Corporate Big Business feels that truck drivers are worth,....and the non-Unions will find this out quickly if we lose our resolve and take a concessionary contract. All the non-Unions took pay cuts when YRC took a pay cut, and they only got their pay cut back because ABF DIDN'T take a pay cut. If we do it this time....the non-Unions will find their pay/benefit cuts to be permanent. So....wipe that snickering grin off your faces non-Union drivers. You've got more of a "dog in this fight" than you realize. Of course, it's a little too late now to grow some testicles and organize.....all you can do is sit back and hold your collective breath,...and hope ABF employees call management's bluff. We're negotiating for everyone in the trucking industry, now. How does it feel to have your future paychecks in someone else's hands?
Yea they have no idea that it's the unions who got rid of the diesel forklifts along with other improving other standards.There are posters on some of the forums that have very big grudges against unions.
Great post!! Did you read that ex driver!
I have never understood the my needs are more important than yours type of thinking.if you have 30 yr and 65 YOU ARE SELFISH . go head vote no .I thank you because it will help me get back to work at yrc frieght
I can see why your a ex-driver!yep. the post on r&l was afriend of mine new to tb using my name, i am outta trucking. to start some time soon the union will ask for a strike vote, right. this will pass. come mid febuary, salesmen from competitors will be spreading the strike rumor, trying to get shippers on board early to avoid any problems. by early march freight will slowly start going to the competition to avoid any chance of delays. if there is no tentative agreement by the end of march abf freight levels will be down 40%. not good. april will be tough as shippers see if you get and extension. if you strike all freight will be lost and never comeback. the ibt set this up. you can not win when you stand alone. remember you last vote was not on a contract. there were no strike implications like now.
I can see why your a ex-driver!
Outta trucking, spending your time on here spreading your garbage...I'm not buying it.yep. the post on r&l was afriend of mine new to tb using my name, i am outta trucking. to start some time soon the union will ask for a strike vote, right. this will pass. come mid febuary, salesmen from competitors will be spreading the strike rumor, trying to get shippers on board early to avoid any problems. by early march freight will slowly start going to the competition to avoid any chance of delays. if there is no tentative agreement by the end of march abf freight levels will be down 40%. not good. april will be tough as shippers see if you get and extension. if you strike all freight will be lost and never comeback. the ibt set this up. you can not win when you stand alone. remember you last vote was not on a contract. there were no strike implications like now.
You don't really believe it was about those eight people do you?i have heard nothing but narrow minded non - sense. he is plunger he is management. it happened to me. 20 years down the toilet. no strike authorization was given. stood on the picket line while all other companies were working. it lasted one day. all for 8 office workers not covered by contract, 2000 teamsters out of work . be mindful of what you are told. i have only given you the real probabilities.
You don't really believe it was about those eight people do you?
The Local involved got played by the company. They were looking for any excuse to shut down and they took the first chance they could to blame the union.
I wasn't involved but I watched it play out in the news and right here on truckingboards.
Not That I agree with you on everything ex but we should be aware that there are many ways of the company getting what the company wants and we should be vigilant.
yep. the post on r&l was afriend of mine new to tb using my name, i am outta trucking. to start some time soon the union will ask for a strike vote, right. this will pass. come mid febuary, salesmen from competitors will be spreading the strike rumor, trying to get shippers on board early to avoid any problems. by early march freight will slowly start going to the competition to avoid any chance of delays. if there is no tentative agreement by the end of march abf freight levels will be down 40%. not good. april will be tough as shippers see if you get and extension. if you strike all freight will be lost and never comeback. the ibt set this up. you can not win when you stand alone. remember you last vote was not on a contract. there were no strike implications like now.
What year was it that Red Star went out? I forget.you are right it wasnt about 8 people. it was once again yellow. if you recall, usf was bought by yellow less than 6 months after the shutdown. they already owned new penn and didnt need red star overlaping coverage. its seems like the union played into yellows hand again. sound familiar?