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Triplex:smilie_132: as far the dates go do you have something from the union stating these are the dates period. QUOTE]
Of course he does - he's an ECI.
Just pokin' at you, Triplex.
Triplex:smilie_132: as far the dates go do you have something from the union stating these are the dates period. QUOTE]
Of course he does - he's an ECI.
Just pokin' at you, Triplex.
It was brought up on the truckingboards before TDU had anything to say about it.I believe it was on the roadway forum....
Thats UPS, as in parcel not freight. UPS freight doesn't even have a clause for COLA that I've seen.
I think you asume to much as far as the dates go. How do you know what dates and where to apply them. In reference to dates, do they automatically update to new contract or do they have to be specifically changed throuhout the contract.
Article 39
See Section 1 and 4 of old contract
National Master Freight Agreement - Article 39
Here's a good example: they didn't change the dates in sick leave. Effective April 1, 1980 and thereafter
:National Master Freight Agreement - Article 38
I think we can agree to disagree on this issue.
My error on UPS. I thought you were talking about UPS Freight not Parcel.
Regarding not changing the date of the sick leave clause in Article 38:
The sick leave clause went into effect on April 1, 1980 and went on forever: "Effective April 1, 1980 and thereafter, etc., etc."
The COLA clause did not go on forever: "Effective April 1, 2004, and every April 1 thereafter during the life of the agreement etc., etc."
I believe it does go on forever thus Article 39
Section 1
This Agreement shall be in full force and effect from April 1, 2003, to and including March 31, 2008, and shall continue from year to year thereafter unless written notice of desire to cancel or terminate this Agreement is served by either party upon the other at least sixty (60) days prior to date of expiration.
Section 4.
Revisions agreed upon or ordered shall be effective as of April 1, 2008 or April 1st of any subsequent contract year.
They didn't change the year on jury duty either: Please explain your theory:
Page 47
http://www.teamster.org/divisions/Freight/2008NMFAnegotiations/pdfs/2008-NationalMasterFreightAgreement2.pdf
I believe it does go on forever thus Article 39
Section 1
This Agreement shall be in full force and effect from April 1, 2003, to and including March 31, 2008, and shall continue from year to year thereafter unless written notice of desire to cancel or terminate this Agreement is served by either party upon the other at least sixty (60) days prior to date of expiration.
Section 4.
Revisions agreed upon or ordered shall be effective as of April 1, 2008 or April 1st of any subsequent contract year.
They didn't change the year on jury duty either: Please explain your theory:
Page 47
http://www.teamster.org/divisions/Freight/2008NMFAnegotiations/pdfs/2008-NationalMasterFreightAgreement2.pdf
Definition:
ECI: The 2/3rds of Teamsters who exercised their privilege and voted in favor of the new NMFA. Plus all oxymorons, like me, who don't hate the company, the union, the contract, the COLA, etc., etc., etc., and are willing to come on this forum in spite of the fact that they are obviously *** kissing, jelly fish spined rat finks.:joke:
I will not post itDefinition:
ECI: The 2/3rds of Teamsters who exercised their privilege and voted in favor of the new NMFA. Plus all oxymorons, like me, who don't hate the company, the union, the contract, the COLA, etc., etc., etc., and are willing to come on this forum in spite of the fact that they are obviously *** kissing, jelly fish spined rat finks.:joke:
Larry, just wishes we all made as much as he did when he worked and will make as much as he does now. Then we wouldn't complain all the time.
You know who wished they made as much as me when I worked? All of my immediate supervisors and every non-union trucker on this board. You know who wished they made as much as I do from my pension? All of my immediate supervisors and every non-union trucker on this board. The point is, everything could be better, but, at least, I am better off than most. For that I am very thankful. And, as I mentioned on another thread, I worked for 32 years and never got a COLA, even though it was in some of the contracts that I worked under. And, obviously, as you have pointed out, I have managed to survive better than most, despite that. And you still owe me that Pepsi, stldude44.
Did he sign a contract on that and I never got a ballot.I heard you were buying the beer Larry. All we had to do was show up in Colorado.
I heard you were buying the beer Larry. All we had to do was show up in Colorado.
Did he sign a contract on that and I never got a ballot.
I'm guessing that a certain percentage would say that the numbers were skewed even if they were released. A lot of the time people believe what they want to believe. I see your point about not seeing any results of the survey but would everybody believe them even if they saw them? And even if they were allowed to be in the counting process.....like in the NMFA vote, they'd say some kind of fix was in......in certain situations the IBT can't win. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.Then why bother with a survey? Why quote a survey to validate a point? Why even poll the members? We can just ask you what common sense says.
I am not saying that Pensions were not the most important issue to the members, I honestly don't know. Does it not seem wrong to use that survey to make a point assuming and implying the results(which are to my knowledge still unreleased) to back up a statement?
I like oxycodone much better than oxymoron.....I just can't seem to get a buzz on oxymorons. I've never tried oxycontin.Memo TO STLDUDE44, please be more careful about placeing oxymorons on this thread. YOU sure stirred up a hornets nest!!!!!!!!!!!
I like oxycodone much better than oxymoron.....I just can't seem to get a buzz on oxymorons. I've never tried oxycontin.
Oxygen can come in very handy.I've been addicted to oxygen for quite some time myself!!
I'll ask again... How do you know the results of the freight survey?