Skeeter said:
You might get tired of hearing it but its true. If I wanted a union job I would seek it not belly ache about a nonunion one.
UPS Freight
You will find that most Teamster companies are proud of their Teamster workforce. They even hold us to high standards. Just recently, my terminal advertised for drivers. We had 200 applications, and only 3 were approved. Now not to imply anything, but I'm sure some of those other 197 applicants found jobs at some nonunion company somewhere.
It's kind of funny if we don't agree with you or your colonies then we are brain washed and uneducated when it comes to things about the union. I don't think so.
If you blindly believe what you are told (by anyone), then brainwashing could apply. Being proud and defending your company is commendable, but when numerous coworkers are complaining about situations, then maybe you should open your eyes to the bigger picture and not the cozy little world of your particular terminal. It's quite possible that there is indeed something rotten in the state of Denmark. Uneducated? Not necessarily, but rather misinformed. When you hear management putting down the union in a captive setting, and no one to rebut their rants, then what else can you believe? Going on information or events from the past is just that. THE PAST. Learning from the mistakes you made in the past is a sign of growing. Not learning from the mistakes from the past will just lead to those same mistakes being made in the future. Believe me, the Teamsters HAVE learned from their past and will do what is necessary to ensure a solid future for themselves as well as the companies they deal with.
We have good wages and benefits without the union. We are treated fair and it is a good place to work.
Where do you think those good wages came from? Did you thank Leo or did you bother to thank a Teamster? If the union never tried to Organize Overnite, you would probably be nowhere near where you are today. Do you think Overnite did it out of the goodness of their hearts? No way. It was done to keep you from voting the Teamsters in. Now, if memory serves me correctly, the Teamsters were voted in at many Overnite terminals. They spent millions in fines because they didn't bargain fairly, spent millions to get you to decertify the union representation, millions in bringing up your wages and benefits. Why? All because of the Teasmters. Think how much better off you all would have been if there wasn't a decertification vote, you would have had the wages and benefits. You would have had on the job protection, like seniority rights and harrassment protection and a grievence precedure(not made up of company appointed "Peers"). And on top of it all, Overnite could have saved the extra millions and reinvested it in the company, reinvested it in the workforce.
That being said why should we force the union and restrictive work rules on our company. The teamsters are the ones putting their companies out of business. Not management. Flexibility not strict work rules.
Restrictive work rules are a thing of the past. Sure there are some things like job classifications and such, but restiction is a way of the past. (Remember learning from past mistakes?) Over the last few years, the Teamsters have tried to become partners with the employers because we realize that prosperity is in everyone's best interest. In all my years with the union, I never saw a union representative put a lock on the gate to a company property. I never saw a paycheck that came from the Teamsters, it always came from the company. I never saw a rep come in and say this is how we do things at this company. I never saw a rep fire or discipline anyone. Bottom line is, management determines the direction the company will take. There have been numerous nonunion jobs that have folded or been acquired due to poor management decisions. Show me how in what shape, manner, or form that the Teamsters had anything to do with the demise of nonunion companies?
So we are just fine and will continue to do fine with our new company.
I'm sure UPS Freight will do quite well. Personally, being union or nonunion will have nothing to do with the success or failure of UPSF. One way or another it all lies with management.
YOU'D LIKE TO THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN THAT WAY AGAIN,SORRY,NEW GAME/COACHES,AND IT AIN'T GOING DOWN THE SAME AS THE LAST TIME,WAY MORE OF US THAN YOU GUYS:GrowUp: YOU GUYS THAT SPEAK FOR ALL 15,000 OF US AND SAY IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN REALLY MAKE US:rofl2:
