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Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by Why, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. Why

    Why Active Member

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    Retirement. SORRY but a gray paper contract. ME TO. lets walk
     
  2. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    That sounds about right. You guys could estimate how much additional monies a strike would garner you, and whether it would be worth the strife...but two dollars sounds about right in my estimation. Maybe get linehaul up to...65 cents? Which will still put them behind a lot of other LTL carriers, but with better benefits.

    The really interesting thing will be YRC's negotiations. They have a long, deep hole to climb out of, and the outcome of that will determine pay and benefits for a lot of LTL carriers.
     
  3. Why

    Why Active Member

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    ALL of AbF CEO's took a pay hike in 2012 F THEM I will be last one till they CLOSE SHOP....
     
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  4. Why

    Why Active Member

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    THAT's is in my BOOK...
     
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  5. maverick50

    maverick50 Member

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    Are we talking about P&D here? Saia linehaul makes over 38.00hr. if you figure the mileage pay in hours.
     
  6. J Adkins

    J Adkins Member

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    If nothing else, this "why" guy is entertaining. So, your CEO's took a pay hike, and you're gonna stick it to them by being the last man standing when they shut the gate? What exactly does that show ANYBODY?

    And $35.00/hr
     
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    Why Active Member

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    It tells the board to vote YES. Sorry now I'M :shit: GET THE F OUT OF HERE.THANK YOU GONE AND FU
     
  8. Frootloop

    Frootloop Well-Known Member

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    Much tense, very hostile.
     
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  9. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    Dogewow.jpg
     
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  10. Frootloop

    Frootloop Well-Known Member

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    I thought everyone had forgotten about ol' Doge.
     
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    Why Active Member

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    no hope herE
     
  12. Why

    Why Active Member

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    one mile ok
    no
     
  13. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    It's not that there isn't hope. It's that you guys are in a holding pattern until you see what the negotiating committee comes up with.

    And I hate to be the one to break this to you, but if you won't take anything less than $35 per hour, you probably need to find employment elsewhere.
     
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  14. shrink wrap

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    I believe he's talking about linehaul. 62 mph times 61 cents. Roughly....
     
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  15. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    If that's the case, then you are already there, right? It was just a hair under $0.60 per mile when I left in 2015. I know there have been a couple raises since then.
     
  16. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    This is the post that needs clarity. Mr. Why is not specific and honestly he mostly just rambles. P&D or linehaul? I don’t think he knows!! He can’t compose sentences that anyone can understand. He’s either unwilling or incapable explaining himself.
     
  17. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Ahh,.........what am I smoking? Well,.....that ended about 45 years ago.

    Maybe I'm finally getting those flashbacks from all the acid I took back in the '70's..............And here all this time I've been cursing those dealers who I thought burned me.........

    We'll have to see,...like everyone says,....what the negotiating committee comes up with. Yes,.....package car drivers do have to hustle. But,...they don't carry HAZ-MAT, or break sets,.....or worry about weight and height restrictions,....or a myriad of other things that LTL freight drivers...( ..you included, Brother....)...have to do. The skill set may be different,.......but the hustle and liability factor are similar. Actually,...the liability factor may be greater for LTL drivers.

    As you know at SAIA,.....the employees don't get a chance to negotiate nothing.....It's "take it, or leave it"......based on what THEY say is "market conditions". I'm presuming you've been around for a while, and you know that, decades ago,....the Union set the benchmark for what driver pay and conditions would be,........and the non-Unions responded based on availability of the driver pool.

    The industry has changed drastically within the last few years. But,.....that doesn't mean that the drivers and dock workers have to short their own families to support this industry. LTL trucking USED to be the highest-paid blue-collar job in America,.....because of the hours and conditions. It is no longer the highest paid,......but the conditions have gotten worse, along with the regulatory climate.

    What that means is that LTL trucking is no longer in it's own tiny little world , as far as the National Labor force goes. LTL trucking management is now in competition with plumbers, electricians, steel-workers, and a host of other occupations that are paying the same ,....if not (much)....more than LTL trucking.......for employees in the shrinking labor pool.

    Go read Milton Friedman.....a darling of conservative economic thought,...........and he will tell you that,.....in a shrinking labor pool, wages will rise, and have NO correlation to market forces. In other words,.....Pay high wages,...or close the doors.

    The issue is......Does ArcBest want to "close the doors"? If not,.....then they'll have to pay artificially high wages until the labor pool stabilizes.

    And,......that will help you, Brother. "A rising tide floats all boats"....I believe is how the old saying goes.......

    The Union guys will do the "heavy lifting" (negotiating...)......and the entire LTL field will benefit.......

    You're Welcome........
     
  18. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    knot shore he has spell chequer ether.
     
  19. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Who needs Spell Checker when you have Invincible Ignorance?

    I'm highly educated,....went through Tenth Grade three times before they threw me out...Got that Grade down GOOD!

    I don't use Spell Checker....and I an nevr wang in whow Eye spull tings..........
     
  20. RonnieJames

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    I’m jumping on the #METOO bandwagon because Judy is F-ing RAPING us!!
     
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