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When did it go up to four its always been 3 right
New hires only get 2... Went with nothing for over 2 years when I started... Cheap bastards...
When did it go up to four its always been 3 right
Sounds like JB is moving their freight on rails.
Yes, I know other carriers move our freight.
How they do it doesn't matter, they are doing it.
The other night leaving the terminal I was talking to one of the gals that works in the office. I asked her what she thought about things happening in our company. Her quote" EVERYONE IS PISSED!". Her words not mine. I just want this company to treat drivers right. I'm a 20 year man expecting to lose my morning bid to a less than 1 year dock guy.
The early bid drivers work the inbound dock in the mornings. Now Con-Way is hiring full time dock workers and cutting the bids so drivers don't have to work the dock anymore. They cut about 8 morning bids at my old barn this last year.So explain exactly how you could lose your morning bid to a guy with 1 year?
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The early bid drivers work the inbound dock in the mornings. Now Con-Way is hiring full time dock workers and cutting the bids so drivers don't have to work the dock anymore. They cut about 8 morning bids at my old barn this last year.
Sorry, I'll try harder...
Hmmm, don't see any of ours on there....yet.
I'm guessing whatever amount it takes to maintain a profitable operation?
Silly, huh?
Are you sure? I thought it was 26%.
Teamsters Online: Freight Division: NATIONAL MASTER FREIGHT AGREEMENT: Article 29
Has something changed?
The other night leaving the terminal I was talking to one of the gals that works in the office. I asked her what she thought about things happening in our company. Her quote" EVERYONE IS PISSED!". Her words not mine. I just want this company to treat drivers right. I'm a 20 year man expecting to lose my morning bid to a less than 1 year dock guy.
Our bid driving positions are protected. The drivers work the dock on early call basis at 1 1/2. No bid dock man can bump a bid driver.
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http://teamsterslocal251.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/abf-national-2013-2018.pdf
Wrong.
The parties recognize that the current shipping markets demand expedited delivery of freight in a
manner that may not be accomplished by hauling certain freight by rail. These market demands
cre
ate a need to reduce the amount of freight hauled by rail and to use alternative methods of
substitute service. As contemplated by Article 20, Section 4, new business opportunities may be
pursued that promote new Teamster job opportunities while protectin
g existing Teamster jobs,
benefits, and working conditions. With these facts in mind, the rail miles as a percentage of total
miles will be reduced as follows: effective Calendar Year 2010, the maximum amount of rail
miles as a percentage of total miles a
s calculated above will be reduced from 24% to 21.5%.
Effective Calendar Year 2011, the maximum amount of rail miles as a percentage of total miles
as calculated above will be reduced from 21.5% to 21%. Effective Calendar Year 2012, the
maximum amount of
rail miles as a percentage of total miles as calculated above will be reduced
from 21% to 19%. The reduction in rail miles during the term of this Agreement is subject to the
provisions of Article 29, Section 6
When the bids are posted,the inbound bids have always been open for drivers,they are the earlist bids usually taken by senior drivers finishing out their last few years,or guys who may have kids playing highschool or college athletics,start times 4 am to 5 am,depending on the service center.Now Con-Way can't get drivers to come here,so,offer those times to the cheap help and fill your driver shortage with those drivers on the early bids.What they don't realize is that the drivers are going to bump bids all the way down the board.Those new drivers will see no future,and anyone under 35 with 5 years or less should also see the writing on the wall.So explain exactly how you could lose your morning bid to a guy with 1 year?
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When the bids are posted,the inbound bids have always been open for drivers,they are the earlist bids usually taken by senior drivers finishing out their last few years,or guys who may have kids playing highschool or college athletics,start times 4 am to 5 am,depending on the service center.Now Con-Way can't get drivers to come here,so,offer those times to the cheap help and fill your driver shortage with those drivers on the early bids.What they don't realize is that the drivers are going to bump bids all the way down the board.Those new drivers will see no future,and anyone under 35 with 5 years or less should also see the writing on the wall.
You have guys that actually WANT those early start times that never drive?? Those bids were always some of the last ones filled during the bid at my barn. The low guys usually got forced into them. The ones that work the dock for a couple hours and then leave on a peddle were always popular, though. As well as the few bids that don't work the dock at all.We aren't talking about driving positions. The very most senior guys have pure dock bids. They work the dock only and go home.
But the are replacing those bids with dock workers and pushing the drivers back to the street. Which usually gets the " well are you a driver or not " response.
What you don't understand is that these guys did their time to get these cushy bids and that this is just one more carrot they have taken off the stick.
It makes these guys angry that they are losing their bid. And it makes everyone else angry that they lost theirs from the " shove from above ".
You have guys that actually WANT those early start times that never drive?? Those bids were always some of the last ones filled during the bid at my barn. The low guys usually got forced into them. The ones that work the dock for a couple hours and then leave on a peddle were always popular, though. As well as the few bids that don't work the dock at all.
Like I told my SCM... I didn't get a CDL to become a full time forklift driver.
And that doesn't just effect you. It pushes everyone down a spot.
I keep going up the seniority board, but keep sliding down the bid sheet.
When the bids are posted,the inbound bids have always been open for drivers,they are the earlist bids usually taken by senior drivers finishing out their last few years,or guys who may have kids playing highschool or college athletics,start times 4 am to 5 am,depending on the service center.Now Con-Way can't get drivers to come here,so,offer those times to the cheap help and fill your driver shortage with those drivers on the early bids.What they don't realize is that the drivers are going to bump bids all the way down the board.Those new drivers will see no future,and anyone under 35 with 5 years or less should also see the writing on the wall.