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SwampRatt said:
BUT, the qualifications/expectations for both is the same... Same pool of drivers should equal same value/cost. Size of op-co makes no difference. NOT a valid argument...
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So all drivers at every ltl company should make the same,using your logic. Don't think that's going to happen.
 
dsh69 said:
Umm, no. Come up with specifics or you're just blowing it out your ass
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They have a far better total compensation package. They enjoy the highest pay in the industry that also includes: post retiree healthcare, better and cheaper medical, a defined pension benefit, a top wage that's system wide. They also have clear, defined, work rules and protections in writing, that aren't open for interpretation.
 
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cavscoutdad said:
Freight and package are not the same business. The profit margin is a whole lot higher in package than it is in freight. UPS can afford to pay the package guys more than the freight guys because the package guys make more money for the company.
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Again, flawed logic.

Using your (and other's) logic, dock help on the freight side would also make less than the package side. The FACT is the freight side pays them significantly more, whether we're talking UPS or FedEx.

The difference has nothing to do with the profit level of the operating company, but rather the skill level required and the ability to attract/retain the desired worker.

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cavscoutdad said:
So all drivers at every ltl company should make the same,using your logic. Don't think that's going to happen.
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Fact is, most LTL companies do pay a similar rate. Yes there are bottom feeders, but similarly respectable companies pay similarly (total package), within a zone of reasonableness. Not because they want to, but because they have to.

Haven't checked lately, but for a time recently, even Central Freight Lines paid more that FedEx Freight. Explain that one.

This from back in 2015 shows some confirmed numbers. The only exception on the high end was UPSF. Some of that has since changed, only because it had to.

http://www.truckingboards.com/bb/threads/our-deeply-flawed-pay-scales-gpd.66906/page-13#post-975449

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Dick Dastardly said:
They have a far better total compensation package. They enjoy the highest pay in the industry that also includes: post retiree healthcare, better and cheaper medical, a defined pension benefit, a top wage that's system wide. They also have clear, defined, work rules and protections in writing, that aren't open for interpretation.
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He must be new to ltl trucking. Lol
 
Dick Dastardly said:
They have a far better total compensation package. They enjoy the highest pay in the industry that also includes: post retiree healthcare, better and cheaper medical, a defined pension benefit, a top wage that's system wide. They also have clear, defined, work rules and protections in writing, that aren't open for interpretation.
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This is matter of opinion...if you take the time to browse their forums you’d think it was the exact opposite!!
 
Redracer3136 said:
This is matter of opinion...if you take the time to browse their forums you’d think it was the exact opposite!!
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Nothing about my post was opinion.

As for the other part of your post, they are currently going through contract negotiations. But thanks to brave men like them and those before them, your compensation package is to the level you currently enjoy, albeit lower than theirs.
 
Redracer3136 said:
This is matter of opinion...if you take the time to browse their forums you’d think it was the exact opposite!!
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Yeah matter of opinion if you are deaf, blind, or just plain stupid. The only benefit we have that is better is the city driver vacation average that is the only one.
 
Dick Dastardly said:
Nothing about my post was opinion.
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Sure it is...

”better” medical...better than what?? To hear some of them talk it’s not necessarily “better”, having to drive an hour and a half away just to have “certain procedures” done isn’t better IMO...

“Clear defined work rules and protections in writing not open for interpretation”....how’s that PT usage rule working out for them?? They’re using more than the allotted 15% while company guys are sitting at home...

Yeah, it’s a matter of opinion...
 
Redracer3136 said:
Sure it is...

”better” medical...better than what?? To hear some of them talk it’s not necessarily “better”, having to drive an hour and a half away just to have “certain procedures” done isn’t better IMO...

“Clear defined work rules and protections in writing not open for interpretation”....how’s that PT usage rule working out for them?? They’re using more than the allotted 15% while company guys are sitting at home...

Yeah, it’s a matter of opinion...
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You obviously haven't read their contract. The 2013/2018 one or the new proposal.
 
Redracer3136 said:
Sure it is...

”better” medical...better than what?? To hear some of them talk it’s not necessarily “better”, having to drive an hour and a half away just to have “certain procedures” done isn’t better IMO...

“Clear defined work rules and protections in writing not open for interpretation”....how’s that PT usage rule working out for them?? They’re using more than the allotted 15% while company guys are sitting at home...

Yeah, it’s a matter of opinion...
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Man I just did open enrollment last week must have missed the 90/10 plan like ups has, for less than our Cadillac that is really a pinto plan. I would gladly drive a hour and half away to get medical procedures done if you don't have to pay like we do. I'm sure we use even more on PT so what's your point? Only a clown can come up with some petty stuff like this and call it a "matter of opinion". :clap:
 
Haven't checked lately, but for a time recently, even Central Freight Lines paid more that FedEx Freight. Explain that one.



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That must be why all these Fedex guys going to Central
 
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