FedEx Freight | We Need A Union

I drove truck as a Teamster for several years. I've worked for FedEx for about 12 years. Sorry, guys, but you're on a sinking ship. FedEx has managed to take three profitable companies and turn them all into one big lump of ::shit:: with the FedEx label. FedEx doesn't know how to truck. See, we hire other companies (CRST, US Express, :shit:ville Transport, etc) to do our trucking for us.
When I read the responses from most of these drivers that put a union down, it is EASY to recognize they are talking out their ass. I guarantee they've never spent a DAY working as a union member. All they know about any union is what these clowns here at AF/FedEx taught them during their orientation to this company. (bullshit lies such as $400 a month dues, giving your money away, etc). It's funny how people say they ''don't need anyone to do their talking for them'' but, from what I've witnessed, that usually means they spend alot of time under their ccm's desk, 10-4?
The lack of respect FedEx management has for their own employees is justification enough for an employee union. You can bet your ass that any management with a title of VP or Director (and above) is protected by a CONTRACT! Lesson number one for FedEx? Learn to listen to your employees. Lesson number 2? Learn how to truck. It's OUR freight, WE haul it. Why give it away to 22cpm drivers that use our facilities to wash their dirty feet in? Have you had ANY contact with these clowns? Do you REALLY think our customers know they're paying ''premium'' rates for these jokers to haul their freight? I'd love to get a customer list of just ONE load on a purchase trailer and notify them with video just who is REALLY hauling their freight for their ''premium'' money. What a joke.
I know, I know...why don't I just go somewhere else. That's the response of a company ass-kisser. Here's what I'm gonna do...this ship IS sinking and I'm going to enjoy watching it go down with my front row seat.
Union YES!
 
I'm an ex-UPS Freighter and I can tell you that teamsters are USELESS. Nothing will protect your job except for a strong, financially sound company i.e. CF. What more proof do you need than YRC to know unions don't work. I worked for 15 years in the city that gave birth to the teamsters ( Seattle ) and has anyone ever heard of a big union presence there. NO! Why? Because unions don't work anymore.

My Uncle Mike was with CF and then got on at Roadway and then got moved to YRC. He hasn't worked in 2 years. So where is the "protection". And on top of that he tried to retire and took a 50% hit on his pension because the union pension fund is insolvent. He tried to get a job outside the union and they told him if he did that they would take his pension away from him.

So does this sound good to you? Then vote the union in. I'd love to see what you say when FedEx owes you $100 and it takes 6 months to a year for you to collect because you have to go through the grievence process.
 
I'm an ex-UPS Freighter and I can tell you that teamsters are USELESS. Nothing will protect your job except for a strong, financially sound company i.e. CF. What more proof do you need than YRC to know unions don't work. I worked for 15 years in the city that gave birth to the teamsters ( Seattle ) and has anyone ever heard of a big union presence there. NO! Why? Because unions don't work anymore.

My Uncle Mike was with CF and then got on at Roadway and then got moved to YRC. He hasn't worked in 2 years. So where is the "protection". And on top of that he tried to retire and took a 50% hit on his pension because the union pension fund is insolvent. He tried to get a job outside the union and they told him if he did that they would take his pension away from him.

So does this sound good to you? Then vote the union in. I'd love to see what you say when FedEx owes you $100 and it takes 6 months to a year for you to collect because you have to go through the grievence process.

I don't want to get into a union/non-union pissing contest but I do know that the western teamster pension plan is solvent,so where you are getting your info is false..and I will leave it at that..
 
no comments from the peanut gallery please, this is internal affairs.
 
This is pretty-much a union company.
They pay close to union-scale, have basically the same seniority-based system as a union barn, etc.
The reason they do this is so people won't sign cards.
People need to get clear about something: Fedex DOES NOT determine these wages...it's the Teamsters that does.
If not for the threat of a union, FedEx (and the rest of the LTL's) would pay market-based wages...which would be about .38 cpm, $15.00/hour, no OT, lousy bennies, etc.
As the influence of the unions fade in LTL (and elsewhere...look at what's going on in Wisconsin right now), so too will the wages in LTL.
It's only a matter of time.

That is my biggest worry. If the unions go away then what happens. All the rights and workplace protections we have now are a byproduct of organized labor,weekend off ,40 hr workweek ,ot after 8. This is my first non union job in 34yrs of trucking and for the most part I have been treated fairly, but I have always been a no nonsense get the job done driver,but at the same time all the VPs and CEOs all have contracts and golden parachutes but whats good for the elite is not good for the peons. Then you will say we have all these labor laws protecting us now but that puts us at the whim of what the political climate is. Look what's happening in Wisconsin now . If they suceed it will be the beginning of the end for the middle class. I find it ironic that the middle east is protesting for their rights while they are trying to take them away from us here.
 
some of you all may want a union I started drivin in 1974 for P.I.E. union shop whent over to tanks Matlack a union shop when times were slow worked at Mcclean Transcon and others all gone some say unions caused thier demise I say bad management my point is a union aint gonna fix your problem look at the roadway yellow merger all were dovetailed wages were cut 15 percent and the management want more so I am a old guy seen the best and the worst of this biz but I have learned you got to speak for yoursel I know I don't need a third party so do as you see fit but you get what you ask for and if you think it is bad now put a union in and see what it is like when you have to go to a shop steward to get a answer in about 6 weeks so good luck
 
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I agree with most of your post except the ass kisser part. Ive been in a union, Im sorry, screwed by the teamsters union twice. Go to a union thread of your choice and you will read that they do the same ::shit:: this company does. The only difference is, there isnt a third party with 3/4 of a million dollar homes and 50 to 60 thousand dollar cars involved at our expense. They use the same outside carriers we do, screw the employees worse than they do here. If you have a problem with the company, wrongly fired or whatever, call the NLRB, that's what the teamsters do!!!
 
I liked the $56 dues that covered all my health benefits. On the other hand, if FedEx were organized right now I would be on lay off without any benefits, unless I wanted to fork over $900 a month for COBRA. So FedEx is taking care of my family in the benefits department.
 
The teamster will fix everything ?? Really. What good reason would I have to sign a card with the teamsters ?
So my voice can be hushed so the teamsters can tell me what to say and think ? No thanks
So my money can support some fat assed socialist ? No thanks
Now are all teamsters this ? No but many are. I know a few guys that are golden with the teamsters but unfortunately they are very few and far between
Big secret --- there is no security in trucking. That went away with deregulation.
Our security is doing the best we can everyday. Make customers want to use us. I'm happy as hell when I have to work the dock
A. It's overtime pay usually
B. We are busy enough that this needs done
C. We have flexible work rules to do whatever it takes to make customers happy
Need I go on ?
 
I drove truck as a Teamster for several years. I've worked for FedEx for about 12 years. Sorry, guys, but you're on a sinking ship.

Sorry you have that OPINION.

All they know about any union is what these clowns here at AF/FedEx taught them during their orientation to this company. (bull lies such as $400 a month dues, giving your money away, etc). It's funny how people say they ''don't need anyone to do their talking for them'' but, from what I've witnessed, that usually means they spend alot of time under their ccm's desk, 10-4?

You do realize that people have the freedom to make up their own minds dont you? Many know a lot more than what you realize. You witness a lot of under the desk activity first hand or in a 3rd person role? It's rather disturbing either way for you to know so much about it....

Learn how to truck. It's OUR freight, WE haul it. Why give it away to 22cpm drivers that use our facilities to wash their dirty feet in? Have you had ANY contact with these clowns? Do you REALLY think our customers know they're paying ''premium'' rates for these jokers to haul their freight? I'd love to get a customer list of just ONE load on a purchase trailer and notify them with video just who is REALLY hauling their freight for their ''premium'' money. What a joke.

Purchase transportation isn't just a non-union phenomenon for damned sure... You do realize they use it rather vigorously over at UPSF too don't you? Don't you? Even when they have drivers on layoff..... Imagine that.

I know, I know...why don't I just go somewhere else. That's the response of a company ass-kisser. Here's what I'm gonna do...this ship IS sinking and I'm going to enjoy watching it go down with my front row seat.
Union YES!

You are entitled to your opinion but you don't realize or give a ::shit:: that other people are entitled to theirs as well...... With all the oral stuff you talk about perhaps you play ring toss with your lips up in the bosses office right????
 
Not trying to get involved,just trying to state the facts.


thanks but these same old arguments have been going on for decades and alot of it is OPINION based while some is fact based. YRC and Union guys do not like non union guys in their forums discussing union topics and the majority of the non union guys don't want the teamsters in their forums...

95% of all the people here are well versed in how the Union works and many of them come from union carriers.... If FXF people want to talk about it in their own forum then so be it, but just as all mods do in other forums, outsiders are not well received and cause far more harm than good when discussing union topics.
 
I don't want the union in here, with one exception... They need to stop firing people for one mistake on the road. It's not really if you'll have an accident, it's a matter of when. So the way I look at it, there really is little chance I will ever retire from this job if they fire me the day an accident occurs.
 
oh boy, it is what it is, if fed ex fails by merging these two companies as did yrc, then we will have to look for another job
 
I am going to take a nap..... if this thread gets nasty move it to the u/n forum Mr. Mods
 
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