what are some good reasons not to have the union at UPSF?

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  1. BUTTONMAN74

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  2. BUTTONMAN74

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    ME & APOSTOLIC knew an old guy from HALLS MOTOR TRANSIT that had that same famous saying,'tommorows another day':nutkick: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
     
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    cause they're management,and every time their lips move,they're lying:nutkick: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
     
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    same way overnite put freight for BROOKLYN,NY and ended up in L.A.,typical OVERNITE WAY.:nutkick: :nutkick: :chairshot:
    :biglaugh:
     
  5. Skeeter

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    If you would make more post like this people might take you more serious. I agree with some of what you say but still waiting to see what UPSF does. I think it is only right to give them a chance and see if they do right by us.
    If not then we can look at the teamsters. But like Skeeterhawk said it there is a lot of hate and discontent most are going to be turned off by the teamsters.
     
  6. Skeeter

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    Yes and I noticed you didn't say what you were paid for all that. UPSF will correct the time and a half and I bet will do away with waiting on delay.

    So if being paid less to be teamsters is your bag so be it. At least you are a teamster.
     
  7. BUTTONMAN74

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    YA,but SKEET,ain't no hate or discontent coming from the TEAMSTERS,only management,as always gonna change.don't owe them'a chance'anymore than 'O',JIM DOUGLAS,TOM BOSWELL,LEO SUGGS.only chance I see to be given,all others been exhausted,is........TEAMSTERS':tribehasspoken: :tribehasspoken: :bgroovy: :tribehasspoken:
     
  8. Skeeter

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    Yes but Button you forget our new management is UPS. I say give them a chance. The management we have will do what they want or its out the door. I already see major changes at my barn.

    You right I don't owe Overnite anything. I think I gave much more than I got back. There were a lot of things like the way they done us with delay and over time I never liked.

    Like I said in the past Overnite would probably be union now if not for Hoffa and his methods.
     
  9. BUTTONMAN74

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    why was it HOFFA thts the reason you blame overnite for not being union today.blame LEO 7 'O'S management,their hitlist's of union supporters,which,with unholy glee,they loved to whittle down with wrongfull,unlawfull discharges.and blame the NLRB for being typical government,not doing their jobs,enforcing the nations law. HOFFA did what he had to,after so many discharges and:BS: ,something had to be done besides sitting back and doing nothing,action needed to be taken. do we all wish things could have been different,hell yes.but it ain't,did'nt.let's all unite,pick up the pieces,everyone starts out with a clean slate,and lets move forword,and win.:tribehasspoken: :cool:
     
  10. steve5

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    I'm not sure I understand the first part of your question "what you were paid for all of that". Please explain. Next how do you know that they will correct any time and/or money they took, unless you have something on paper that says so ( and I herd it from someone does not count) As for the delay I'll belive it when I see that. Now the last part has me scratching my head, was this ment to be a joke, were you kidding. I hope you were. Every thing I post I do respectfully.
     
  11. hugnlug

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    Outstanding initiative Button!! Be proactive instead of reactive!! :bgroovy:
     
  12. imported_WIGGLEWAGON

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    Skeet, How can you have so much faith in the new UPSF taking care of you and changing the new policy they just set forth? They bought us last August and have been working over this plan for months. The MC side has only seen cuts since the new Edge conversion. We used to get paid delay, wait, breakdown, etc. all at regular rate until the conversion, now we have a BIG cut in hours and rate. Maybe you guys on the O side are used to giving up hours, but for us over here, it sucks. We see things first hand going back instead of forward. I don't see UPSF giving us back what they just took away without some sort of incentive (ie: a union contract) telling them they need to.

    Also, being a UPS subsidiary instead of a sub-contractor, they can get us to haul the UPS freight for less. I personally have a bad taste taking away from the UPS guys what they worked so hard for, just to save the Company some money. So, do you think the customer rates went down? or do you just think there are bigger bonuses for the big guys (management) keeping the union at bay (making promises so we keep the wait-n-see attitude).

    Management keeps telling us we are one big happy family. The reality is there is #1 UPS (supported by the teamsters), #2 UPSF/O at a different scale, #3 UPSF/MC at another scale, and #4 UPSF/MC-Reno at yet another scale. (And by the way the new Employee Policy & Rule books were not even sent to Reno, they don't apply to them.)
     
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    Although I didn't read every post ,I did read most and what I can see most is the fact that most of you want the union,even those that won't admit it.Now to the point ..UPS will not fight the union and will come to a quick settlement as everyone on this board has ignored..:duh: 2007 will be there 100th anniversary and they do not want any labor problems interfering ..You guys will get what you want period.that is why the ups parcel contract went for the extra year:bgroovy: :bgroovy:and just like a few guys have posted the teamsters aren't perfect but at least we know what we are getting........CRAZY
     
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    i work on the dock at UPS freight and managment has told us that all the teamsters want is your money and the pension is broke and if we talk about the union we will be fired. ..that is REASON enough to ''BRING IN THE HORSE''
     
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    Get a witness to that statement.... in fact get several witnesses..... and file labor charges against the supervisor......
     
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    OH my i guess everyone is gonna get fired because its a issue everywhere and talked about everywhere either pro union or anti union ......GOOD ONE.
     
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    According to Federal Law, an employer cannot:
    Fire, punish, intimidate, or coerce employees seeking to organize or join a union
    Threaten to close the facility or lay off employees if they organize a union

    Tell employees that unionization will take away benefits and privileges currently in place.

    Bribe employees to vote against the union, or promise other benefits or privileges in order to influence their vote

    Ask about union activities, how employees intend to vote, or if they have signed a union card
     
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    I'll let you all know how I feel about union or nonunion after I get my packet in the mail. It's starting to heat up around here.

    Lets see if Hoffa will kill it again...
     
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    coming from a non union co, let me tell you the difference is astounding/ much happier here/ and its only been 10mos/ was 20 yrs at large auto nd truck parts manufacturer/ no raise the last 6yrs and ins was up to 120$ a week/ also had to give up 1st 2hrs at every stop and drop/sometimes 3-6hrs a day/ sad thing about it was the laughing and snickering the dispatchers gave you all the time about how much fun we were having now eh?
    my only regrets are why did it take me so long to smartin up????
     
  20. hugnlug

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    Ghostrider, great post. Some of us take for granted our company wages and benefits and are happy and content with what the company says they can afford to provide. Others see a slightly different picture where the wages and benefits could and should be improved because of our new good fortune. Thus like you seeking a greener pasture, many of us see one too by organizing. So please keep an open mind to both sides and ask questions. I'm sure you'll figure it out since you made it to this pasture.
     

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