We were sold the fact of x amount for retirement in exchange for smaller raises. Just like you're getting this carrot of 4 dollars In exchange for no increase in pension. So to start a knew argument in the case that this POS contract is ratified and you guys are all giddy over the 4 dollar raise and a week of vacation that is simply a giveback of something we had for years in exchange of no pension funding, I want the pension frozen and dispersed. I want what's mine. And I'm sure the rest of us retirees would want this also. Since everyone I talk to does not seemed to Interested in the fact that there is no pension funding you guys can figure your own retirement out. Because every post I've made concerning the pension in the last two days I've either been told I'm wrong or greedy or an ungrateful bastard. So you go ahead take the screwing with this new contract and don't worry about anyone's pension, mine or yours. I don't want to hear any crying in 5 years and Central States is insolvent and you have no pension.