Its perfect the way it is. Quit crying
I was hired in the city November 2009. I transferred to the road in december 2009. The company needed 3 road drivers at the time. I was the bottom in the city so I went along with two others. 3 weeks later the co. decided they would hire 37 more road drivers. All the guys that didn't want to be at the bottom when they hired only 3 decided to come to road now. Is that fair that they pass up the job and I take it and then later they decide they want to be a road driver and it could possibly cause me to get laid off. I can't take my co. seniority and bump into the city. Thats why we need board seniority or once you pass the road then you can't take your co. seniority with you for layoff purposes later when you decide to go to the road.Company seniority
Time with the company should mean something.[/QUO
I was hired in the city November 2009. I transferred to the road in december 2009. The company needed 3 road drivers at the time. I was the bottom in the city so I went along with two others. 3 weeks later the co. decided they would hire 37 more road drivers. All the guys that didn't want to be at the bottom when they hired only 3 decided to come to road now. Is that fair that they pass up the job and I take it and then later they decide they want to be a road driver and it could possibly cause me to get laid off. I can't take my co. seniority and bump into the city. Thats why we need board seniority or once you pass the road then you can't take your co. seniority with you for layoff purposes later when you decide to go to the road.
Only your company seniority will save you in a layoff situation regardless of which board you are on...
In the perfect world I would like to see, it would be 1 board seniority and in the event of a layoff, everybody would know exactly where they stand.....
I don't think a 15 yr road driver should lose his job because there is not enough slots just because a 6 yr city driver happens to hold a job in the city and I feel the same way that a 15 yr city man should not lose his job if a 6 yr road driver has a job....
Only your company seniority will save you in a layoff situation regardless of which board you are on...
So if my co. seniority is more than a city man's I won't get laid off?
So if my co. seniority is more than a city man's I won't get laid off?
company seniority by the board you are on only, you have no city seniority when you are on the road and vice versa
In KC I was at National. We had people transfer over to road positions from freight that went behind me on bidding seniority but ahead of me for lay off purposes.
Only your company seniority will save you in a layoff situation regardless of which board you are on...
In the perfect world I would like to see, it would be 1 board seniority and in the event of a layoff, everybody would know exactly where they stand.....
I don't think a 15 yr road driver should lose his job because there is not enough slots just because a 6 yr city driver happens to hold a job in the city and I feel the same way that a 15 yr city man should not lose his job if a 6 yr road driver has a job....
Thats what I am getting at Jeff. If you can take your co. seniority from the city to road or road to city when bidding into a different classification then why have seperate boards.
Thats what I am getting at Jeff. If you can take your co. seniority from the city to road or road to city when bidding into a different classification then why have seperate boards.
as most know here, I would prefer a one board seniority and bid once per year either road or city.
as most know here, I would prefer a one board seniority and bid once per year either road or city.
I'm a newbie so I don't have a preference just trying to understand. Everywhere I have worked you always went by board seniority for bidding and lay off purposes and Co. seniority for benefits.
as most know here, I would prefer a one board seniority and bid once per year either road or city.
Jeff thanks for your time answering my questions. I appreciate it very much. Going to bed have a great day.
as most know here, I would prefer a one board seniority and bid once per year either road or city.
I'm with you on bidding once a year, that would eliminate the greedy guys from taking the extra board during the busy season then bumping the junior guys when it gets slow.
I agree with Jeff on 50%. I think it should be company seniority. However, you shouldn't be allowed to switch from city to road or road to city. I saw too many city guys salivating at the chance to go to the road board when the merger was announced thinking that they would be able to jump to a daytime road bid and make an additional $10,000, $20,000 or $30,000 a year when they hadn't paid their dues on the road board like the rest of us. Sorry, but if you didn't want to claw your way up the road board by working the dock and running shuttle at night (all the while giving up Friday nights and weekends) until you landed a 200 plus mile run, then you shouldn't expect to jump ahead of everyone else.