Teamster251
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I asked that question to a local official here and he said that what happened at ABF-Carolina would never happen again because the launguage in the contract was changed to prevent that from happening again.. If I remember right, some ABF employees file siut in court and they lost because of that language. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. The way it was explained to me, that once we become teamsters, any new purchase and those employess would go to the bottom, even if they were current taemsters. Correct me if I'm wrong. T-251, you would be the one to answer this.Thanks
During the ABF Carolina merger the language was different but at the same time the process by which the sale, merger, transfer, or buyout was determined differed by langusge in the purchase making a gray area. The IBT, If I remember correctly ruled that the list had to be dovetailed.
The big sticking point was that most of the Carolina guys had more senoirity tahn the ABF guys in many areas. ABF had not been around as long as Carolina had been in some areas. Many complained that becuase the ABF name was being retained and the Carolina name was being abolished that the ABF guys should of had super seniority over Carolina guys.
It created a very bad situation between the employees.
In my area alone Carolina had close to 30 men on the list. ABF had 12.
ABF closed their operation at the smaller termial and moverd to Carlina recently built, much larger terminal.
The Carolina sign came down and the ABF sign went up.
The bottom three ABF guys were laid off after the merged and were never called back. The five year call back expiered before they were even needed.
80% of the Carolina men went on before the ABF guys in seniority.
Huge problems, fights, pin pulling, name calling, and down right brutal treatment amongst brothers followed.
This was just at one terminal I was asociated with.
The same things went on at just about every termianl that combined operations and lists.
Future langauge corrected this.
I lived it first hand within RedStar.
Mercury Distribtion (non union) was purchased and no jobs were offered.
Valerie Trans was bid on in Bankruptcy court and the court awarded RedStar the bid (even it being lowerr than G.O.D.)becuase union jobs were going to be saved and transfered to the winning company, G O D didn't offer job protection.
Before the purchased could be finalized the IBT had to okay the merger, sale, buyout or waht ever it was detrermined to be.
The IBT decide that becuase of the longevity of RedStar's presents endtailling in seniority was the only solution.
The same was determined when RedStar bought out CBL. They were entailed and offered a sweet 2 for 1 pension plan for all years served at CBL.
I think you will find that in a case like this because of the lack of UPSF being union and the fact that in all essence it's a newly established dviision of UPS taht it may come down to dovetailing based on the fact that ABF has long beeen union, would have been purchased by a union corp and wold be consolidated with a newly establish or non established union company.
Now let me say this,
This is only my educated guess as to what would happen. Please do not take anything I say on this subject as "My Final Answer".
Again all these rumors are pure specualtion and just rumors, please people don't start jumping off bridges or let these rumors sway your decisions toward or against the union in future choices.
T251