Estes | Is Estes Express Lines For Sale

[JimBob]

Jim, I hear what your'e saying but your'e blaming dispatch for something that is out of their control. The problem with turn drivers not meeting together is much more complicated then a dispatcher error. P&D drivers starting later and later on their routes, and getting to their pickups later and later starts the domino effect. The dock breaks the freight too late to make gate times etc. etc. And they do this with the city drivers to make sure they don't reach 48 hrs by the end of the week. Then the line driver gets shafted at his meet waiting for free. These were not issues withG.I. They payed the man for his time. And to my little buddy JIMBOB, Your'e like my little pimple faced kid brother. I try to teach you that it is not cool to pick your nose and eat your boogers. But you can't help your self! It would help your pro estes stance if your statements were historically factual. G.I. was very profitable when it was owned by Frank Dunn. And when it was owned by Carolina. So much so that our profits out west were helping counter their declining profits. After Arkansaw Best Corp. merged with Carolina, they severed those long trail freight lanes from us, and handed it all off to ABF. Overnight we became a west coast regional carrier again. With minimal regional freight. We couldn't grow on our own during those years. Carolina pulled our strings. We got customers that ship back east. But we have no one to hand it over to now.That was when our president Dave T. struck a deal with Estes. It was supposed to be a partnership with LME, G.I., Estes,and Overland for Canadian freight. They called this Translink. We had a new sugar daddy. And they did keep us alive and left us alone for quite a while. But the more loans they gave G.I. The more control they started implementing. Inch by inch we were looking more like Estes. I'm not blaming the man for protecting his investment. I blame him for the way he did it and is still doing it. So JimBob to make a long story even longer. We had been a profitable, viable company for many years, under some trying times I might add. But it's pretty tough to remain financially strong when you fill your trailers with low paying Home Depot and Bed Bath & Beyond freight. This sounds like a simplistic answer to what should be a complex problem. But I really think it's that basic.

other than you trying to be a jerk with your comments twards me. you are CORRECT. and you made my point exactly!!

That was when our president Dave T. struck a deal with Estes. It was supposed to be a partnership with LME, G.I., Estes,and Overland for Canadian freight. They called this Translink. We had a new sugar daddy. And they did keep us alive and left us alone for quite a while. But the more loans they gave G.I. The more control they started implementing. Inch by inch we were looking more like Estes. I'm not blaming the man for protecting his investment.

and the key words are " And they did keep us alive and left us alone for quite a while. But the more loans they gave G.I. " which means Estes was keeping GI from going under. so without Estes then GI would have been gone well before it did. im really not trying to be a jerk, but thank you for validating my points :D

ohh and boogers are good, they keep you healthy

 

[ChrisJones]

Dispatch was terrible before and is not better now. Most GI`s thought it would be alot better with dispatch but it is worse. We wait now and do not get paid and are told to sit there until the other driver shows up, whenever that is. This does not happen to me now, but it was and it sucks. And every driver that it happens to now will tell you it sucks.
Estes has rules set out for delays, and do not care. Estes breaks those rules everyday. This is a sore subject with me, but is only one issue.

i really havent had much of a problem with dispatch, my only real complaint is not being told by them when my meet guy is running late. BUT i talk to the drivers i meet with and they tell me, so if i am gunna wait on a guy i either stay at the terminal or go to the meet point and grab something to eat :D

and yes i agree it does suck thats why i got the drivers phone number.

as far as the rules for delays, yes there is rules. i am doing our joseph, ut run for a guy right now. and i will be honest driving to las vegas is not something i really look forward to, therefore i dont compail about waiting at the meet point for a driver, because if i do they could send me to LV and i would rather wait 4 hours in joseph to be home with my wife than drive to LV and not see her at all that night. yes i know its selfish, but thats my thinking. i will go to LV if they tell me too but i would rather not.

our biggest problem is waiting on frieght getting into LV from LMI, long Beach, and Industry. now sometimes its due to the dock others it is the drivers and i know that for a fact. there is more to this story and if anyone would like more info send me a PM and i will be happy to talk about it.

i am a firm believer in the fact that everyone should be held accountable for thier own actions. if you screw up admit it, and try harder next time. the time that is aloted for the runs from point A to point B is more than enough to do it in. i know all runs have a minimum of 30 min extra built into them. so if you have a run that is 250 miles in CA you would have 5.5 hours to do it in and if you are in a state that you can run 68 MPH you would have 5 hours to do it in. and that IMHO is more than enough time to run those runs.

 

[jimdowning]

as far as the rules for delays, yes there is rules. i am doing our joseph, ut run for a guy right now. and i will be honest driving to las vegas is not something i really look forward to, therefore i dont compail about waiting at the meet point for a driver, because if i do they could send me to LV and i would rather wait 4 hours in joseph to be home with my wife than drive to LV and not see her at all that night. yes i know its selfish, but thats my thinking. i will go to LV if they tell me too but i would rather not.

our biggest problem is waiting on frieght getting into LV from LMI, long Beach, and Industry. now sometimes its due to the dock others it is the drivers and i know that for a fact. there is more to this story and if anyone would like more info send me a PM and i will be happy to talk about it.

i am a firm believer in the fact that everyone should be held accountable for thier own actions. if you screw up admit it, and try harder next time. the time that is aloted for the runs from point A to point B is more than enough to do it in. i know all runs have a minimum of 30 min extra built into them. so if you have a run that is 250 miles in CA you would have 5.5 hours to do it in and if you are in a state that you can run 68 MPH you would have 5 hours to do it in. and that IMHO is more than enough time to run those runs.

We have set cut times. If the cut times are met noone will ever be late due to waiting on close. This is a huge issue and it has to do with dispatch. If you ran thru to LV. then Richmond becomes aware of the issue. As everyone knows they back date the departure times if you gate late. And that is at all ex GI terminals.

Actually I do not get enough time to do my run legally so I am leaving early and getting back late every day. I get 8 1/2 hrs. for a 432 mile run. Mostly in Or. @ 55 mph. and tons of climbs on 2 lane road. I have to hook my own and brek my own and I have to fuel in route everyday about 100 to 110 gallons. Maybe this is an exception it is 1 hour less than I got with GI on the same run, and it is set up 2 1/2 hours later than before. I still love my job and I am not looking elswhere currently.

 

[teamster elvis]

other than you trying to be a jerk with your comments twards me. you are CORRECT. and you made my point exactly!!



and the key words are " And they did keep us alive and left us alone for quite a while. But the more loans they gave G.I. " which means Estes was keeping GI from going under. so without Estes then GI would have been gone well before it did. im really not trying to be a jerk, but thank you for validating my points :D

ohh and boogers are good, they keep you healthy

I don't quite understand your hatred forG.I. Would you please help me understand? I hate to pop your bubble, but estes wasn't the only carrier looking to profit from us. I know for a fact that another carrier was trying to float the cash to G.I. officers to buy back estes' investment into G.I. Trucking. Estes caught wind and the rest is history. Please, do yourself a favor and don't even argue with me on this subject. Let's just say. Estes is beyond shrude in regards to their business practices.

 

[JimBob]

I don't quite understand your hatred forG.I. Would you please help me understand? I hate to pop your bubble, but estes wasn't the only carrier looking to profit from us. I know for a fact that another carrier was trying to float the cash to G.I. officers to buy back estes' investment into G.I. Trucking. Estes caught wind and the rest is history. Please, do yourself a favor and don't even argue with me on this subject. Let's just say. Estes is beyond shrude in regards to their business practices.

i dont hate GI i hired onto GI not estes. and i never said estes was not trying to make a profit thats what all companies want to do. you just make GI sound like it was the absolute best place to ever work. and it wa not, it had its own problems as do all companies and you will finds that out even where you are at now.

 

[teamster elvis]

i dont hate GI i hired onto GI not estes. and i never said estes was not trying to make a profit thats what all companies want to do. you just make GI sound like it was the absolute best place to ever work. and it wa not, it had its own problems as do all companies and you will finds that out even where you are at now.

Well maybe your'e right. I did love G.I. And was about as loyal to them as an employee could be. I know it sounds hoaky, but Iv'e almost been in fistfights protecting her honor. Myself and other older hands that had been there forever have done things forG.I. that we can't even mention. All in the nameof getting the job done. I guess I'm just an old loyal hound dog that wants to sit on the lap of his owner. But that owner sold me off. I guess you guys just adapt better to change than I. And more power to ya. I really do hope you guys do well. Good luck with what ever happens with Estes in the future.

 

[SlowRide]

Been Hearing Estes Is For Sale From Other Linehaul Drivers...any Body Else Heer The Same.

The word on the road is big meeting coming this week. Hope something special happens and some good for you Estes drivers :smilie_132: :bananalama: :smilies-19296:

 

[roadmann]

been hearing the same thing.heard it has something to do with a union company.

 

[Moparman]

Can you say YRC?

 

[teamster elvis]

I know I said I wasn't going to post any more but.......RUMOR ALERT!!!! RUMOR ALERT!!!! This may be good news for a change. Tomorrow 8-15-07. Stay tuned. I wish you all the best. Elvis has left again.

 

[HillBilly Frog]

Can you say YRC?

YRC

 

[MTHelmet]

I know I said I wasn't going to post any more but.......RUMOR ALERT!!!! RUMOR ALERT!!!! This may be good news for a change. Tomorrow 8-15-07. Stay tuned. I wish you all the best. Elvis has left again.

Just like the true Elvis, you have never left us. The only difference is we know you're alive and well, the other Elvis is still yet to be sited.

Waiting for the big news.

Is it only for out west or for all of us?

Any juicy hints?

 

[abbaddon]

HAHA now thats funny.

well lets see if for years i was giving money to a comapny so they dont go broke, and they throw it away every chance they get, i would take control and run the company the way that Estes has too!!

and please dont try and sell that LMI was a better dispatch. OMG that is laughable :D

and yes they went in blind on the buy out. i do have to say that they should have been keeping better track of thier money and what was going out west.

and from what i hear the reason that Estes took so long to finaly take control was due to contracts that had to expire prior to the take over. i hear that, i am not saying its true but thats what i heard and it makes sence to me so i believe it :D

Wow dude, go back to school! Your spelling is ATROCIOUS!

 

[jimdowning]

Wow dude, go back to school! Your spelling is ATROCIOUS!

I do not remember a spelling test to be able to post on this board. I would rather read a misspelled post that is well intended than one like this.

 

[abbaddon]

Well maybe your'e right. I did love G.I. And was about as loyal to them as an employee could be. I know it sounds hoaky, but Iv'e almost been in fistfights protecting her honor. Myself and other older hands that had been there forever have done things forG.I. that we can't even mention. All in the nameof getting the job done. I guess I'm just an old loyal hound dog that wants to sit on the lap of his owner. But that owner sold me off. I guess you guys just adapt better to change than I. And more power to ya. I really do hope you guys do well. Good luck with what ever happens with Estes in the future.

Wow dude, almost in fistfights protecting "her" honor...that is the most laughable things that I have EVER heard..and I thought that I had NO life..WOW!!

 

[Ranger309]

Can you say YRC?

Maybe, but it could be DHL too.

The word is that they are looking for an LTL to by out.

Could be you Estes/GI folks.

Hey, they wont even have to repaint the Estes tractors, since they are already DHL yellow

 

[Ranger309]

Wow dude, almost in fistfights protecting "her" honor...that is the most laughable things that I have EVER heard..and I thought that I had NO life..WOW!!

Yeah, I like Roadway too but I am not going to defend "her" honor anytime soon.

Here "she" went and done hitched up and moved in with that damn Yellow fellow a couple of years ago and now I gotta share "her" with "him"

BTW, I never have heard anything much about GI trucking except that it is, or at least was, a good company to work for, and I have been in the biz for 28 years, so I dont know why all the fuss about.

 

[Dallasdock]

All I have to say on this is that DHL is looking to get into the freight biz!!

 

[dltdock28]

If anyone wants Estes.....woh is debt free,
owns all of their equip, their terminals, and
does not owe anyone.....we are talking in
the billions....did you get that...billions.....
I want to be adopted by Rob...if all goes
well, and he does take me in his bossum...
see you all in the Cayman Islands.....

How much is a billion....okay...4 billion..
minimum...

 

[roadmann]

well apparently all of you great GI drivers couldnt take care of it either thats why Rob was able to buy it so cheap

seems like the great testes drivers are not taking care of it much themselves