Get the facts first Liebstandarte, Before all you good fellas go charging off to sign cards blindly. You might want to get the facts about the contract that IND is tied into. Make sure you know that if you are a road driver and you work the mini hub, when you clock in to work the dock at your destination terminal you will be payed dock w/ cdl wages. ALSO when you take vacation time you are going to be payed a straight 8 instead of the average daily pay you get now. For me that's a 3200.00 dollar a year cut in pay. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I do not want representation I do. But I want to make sure we don't lose more than we stand to gain. I would like to be able to get with alot of different people and have a chance to address the union about these issues before we have to hear well maybe we can get it back in five years. For some of the younger people in this company that may be fine. But some of us have enough time in that we will never make it back. Think about it!!!!!