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Dodge Ram said:
You forgot about something. In @ the last 4 or 5 years we didn't get a raise. One we got didn't count because they raised our insurance.
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Dodge Ram, that raise does count because otherwise you'd have even less money in your pocket after deductions. Why do you suppose they raised the cost of our insurance?
 
Because they are not good at promises. The 1 percent of gross was acceptable......the current weekly co-pay is not acceptable considering the money this company makes. Maybe for companies that are not con artists....not this one. Oh wait....Con dash artist.....
 
wigglewagon14 said:
Okay, most of you know how I feel... And I am not trying to persuade any of you of what beliefs are. Personally after talking to a few people at different barns, my conclusion is this:

There are 3 groups of people here. Not everyone will fit this description.

New Hires. At some barns it seems that a good percentage worked at a convience store before they came here. So they are happy making $18/hr. Which tells me they don’t want to rock the boat.

Median Employees. People that have 3 to 8 years tenure. Either your for the union or your not.

Senior Employees. That are ready to retire between 6 months to 2 years. They don’t want to loose what they have coming to them.

I am sure some of the people I described would vote yes. But, I guess we aren’t starving enough yet.
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There is a forth group. Some who just don't care. I think they call it the Chuck club, Chck don't give a You know the rest. Heard that one at an fac.
 
Should Con-way go Union with the Teamsters.....it (you) should seek to be set up like UPS as to where its contributions go only to Con-way employees. I heard this is how it is at UPS.
 
companyclown said:
Because they are not good at promises. The 1 percent of gross was acceptable......the current weekly co-pay is not acceptable considering the money this company makes. Maybe for companies that are not con artists....not this one. Oh wait....Con dash artist.....
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I think I was asking the question to Dodge Ram. What you gave was a what I would consider a non-answer, but coming from someone who has clown in their name, I guess I'm not surprised.
 
xer talk to your teamsters rep.we got the ball rolling should have a meeting next weekend will take severall im sure,our rep. is verrrry sharp talked twice yesterday and he knows the law ,alot of what we dnt like can be stopped for those who like no retirement no raise runs going to subservice paying more for your ins.need not apply
 
Are you willing to strike to get what it is your looking for? Unions can't force a company to do anything. They can not get you a pay raise, better benefit package, nor bring back your retirement. They can only speak for you as a group, if Con-way says no then your only recourse is to strike to get what you want. Do you think the union supporters have enough guys willing to go with out pay for a week month without pay to get what you want. What would happen if the DSR's decided to strike, what do you think con-way would do? What if only one terminal went on strike? Just somethings to think about before you cast your vote in hopes to see improvements. I believe by saying yes to the union getting anything will become a fight and the only people that will suffer is us hourly guys. I for one say no to the union as I do not see any benefits in joining one, but my pay would yet again decrease due to paying for some union guy to talk for me or supporting some defunct retirement fund. I can speak for myself. I believe we just need to get better at talking to management and expressing our concerns as a group. In that regard I have seen good things happening and management is starting to listen.
 
What good things....nice fancy flash light to keep the dream alive
 
These would be some good questions to ask the organizer ! I would also want to know a lot more of the pension plans for Con Way employees too.

TSMK said:
Are you willing to strike to get what it is your looking for? Unions can't force a company to do anything. They can not get you a pay raise, better benefit package, nor bring back your retirement. They can only speak for you as a group, if Con-way says no then your only recourse is to strike to get what you want. Do you think the union supporters have enough guys willing to go with out pay for a week month without pay to get what you want. What would happen if the DSR's decided to strike, what do you think con-way would do? What if only one terminal went on strike? Just somethings to think about before you cast your vote in hopes to see improvements. I believe by saying yes to the union getting anything will become a fight and the only people that will suffer is us hourly guys. I for one say no to the union as I do not see any benefits in joining one, but my pay would yet again decrease due to paying for some union guy to talk for me or supporting some defunct retirement fund. I can speak for myself. I believe we just need to get better at talking to management and expressing our concerns as a group. In that regard I have seen good things happening and management is starting to listen.
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TSMK said:
Are you willing to strike to get what it is your looking for? Unions can't force a company to do anything. a union only recourse is not to strike, there would have to be negotiations, a vote, meetings where members wants and needs are established, etc. you come off as managment, trying to scare drivers, btw.


They can not get you a pay raise, better benefit package, nor bring back your retirement.they can negotiate, which is more than what you can do right now. they can file unfair labor charges which cost the company money to fight. they can put what you have for wages and benefits in a contract, and the company cannot take them away tommorow, because they signed a CONTRACT. you can have standard, uniform work rules across the board, and across the country.

They can only speak for you as a group, if Con-way says no then your only recourse is to strike to get what you want.no, they have many other options, filing nlrb charges would be one of many.

Do you think the union supporters have enough guys willing to go with out pay for a week month without pay to get what you want. What would happen if the DSR's decided to strike, what do you think con-way would do?this is more of what makes me think you are management, trying to keep the drivers in line through fear.

What if only one terminal went on strike? Just somethings to think about before you cast your vote in hopes to see improvements. I believe by saying yes to the union getting anything will become a fight and the only people that will suffer is us hourly guys. you don't strike me as an hourly guy, but all of your "talking points" have been regurgitated by management AT me before in captive audience meetings.

I for one say no to the union as I do not see any benefits in joining one, but my pay would yet again decrease due to paying for some union guy to talk for me or supporting some defunct retirement fund. yet again, more management anti-union "talking points". all false, btw.

I can speak for myself. I believe we just need to get better at talking to management and expressing our concerns as a group. In that regard I have seen good things happening and management is starting to listen.
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management only tries to placate drivers when they are worried about them organizing, talking to your management team will get you 3 months of improvements, and then you will be RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME BOAT.....
 
Erwin fletcher said:
What good things....nice fancy flash light to keep the dream alive
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Not sure what happens at other locations but here we have a VVT that works on correcting issues. I have seen good things done by these teams. Seems to me Con-way is more willing to listen to employees today then ever before and I have been here for 12 years. Can Con-way change the world over night. No. But I think they are heading in the right direction.
 
buffalobill said:
management only tries to placate drivers when they are worried about them organizing, talking to your management team will get you 3 months of improvements, and then you will be RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME BOAT.....
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Depends on your local management. All I'm saying is there may be better options than the teamsters. I don't believe they can do anything. I believe those recruiters are salesman selling false hopes. Think about what this "sell" means to them. 1% of our pay.
 
buffalobill said:
management only tries to placate drivers when they are worried about them organizing, talking to your management team will get you 3 months of improvements, and then you will be RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME BOAT.....
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once again, do your history class homework, look into the history of organizing attempts at Over Night Freight. When UPS purchased Over Night things changed. But without that purchase where would organizing efforts be today? Would it have ever been completed? How many locations were trying to de-certify their association with a third-party organization? More than none? If so, why?

It starts with a card signiing... from there if enough cards are signed, an election. If the vote tallies favor organizing, the third-party becomes the voice of the employees ONLY AT THAT LOCATION. If and when the company recognizes these steps then the negotiations begin. Remember, negotiations means a discussion of give and take. What are you willing to give up?
 
Merdock said:
once again, do your history class homework, look into the history of organizing attempts at Over Night Freight. When UPS purchased Over Night things changed. But without that purchase where would organizing efforts be today? Would it have ever been completed? How many locations were trying to de-certify their association with a third-party organization? More than none? If so, why?

yes, all of a sudden, ovnt wouldn't hire anyone who worked at a union shop, out of fear of the union becoming stronger. management had a hard on for anyone who was anti union. it didn't matter if you couldn't drive an escort, they wanted you at THEIR barn because you weere anti union and vocal.

It starts with a card signiing... from there if enough cards are signed, an election. If the vote tallies favor organizing, the third-party becomes the voice of the employees ONLY AT THAT LOCATION. If and when the company recognizes these steps then the negotiations begin. Remember, negotiations means a discussion of give and take. What are you willing to give up?
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what did overnite give up? their right to not be paid overtime? their right to be used and abused at the company desired? oh wait, they are paid too much money now, and they don't pay enough for their health insurance, right? btw, I would really like to hear what they "gave up". thats another managment line of bullshit, that you supposedly have to give something up to get something. nope, not by a longshot. no one ever goes backwards. once again, it's called "maintenance of standards".......
 
Well, well. Mr Tom Clark (VP for the eastern region) in case you don't know, paid XCO a visit today. Had talks with all of the drivers today. Said something about how important we are and he understands that the company wouldn't be where it is now if it wasn't for the drivers who have built this company and he appreciates all the hard work we do. Really wasn't paying much attention until someone asked if we would be seeing an increase. He said and I quote " There are NO plans to give an increase this year." Also told us that contrary to what our TM told us, we did not make the OP goal in the first quarter to qualify as one of the quarters to turn the 401k back on. So, we still need 2 consecutive quarters to get the 401k turned back on. It went all down hill from there. He did say that you never know, something could change and they would revisit the idea of an increase. Looks like another year of looking forward to nothing. Thanks Conway! How long are you willing to be stuck in the same rut with this company?
 
buffalobill said:
what did overnite give up? their right to not be paid overtime? their right to be used and abused at the company desired? oh wait, they are paid too much money now, and they don't pay enough for their health insurance, right? btw, I would really like to hear what they "gave up". thats another managment line of bullshit, that you supposedly have to give something up to get something. nope, not by a longshot. no one ever goes backwards. once again, it's called "maintenance of standards".......
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interesting how this activity has been allowed to continue in this forum. Not long ago it would have been moved long before now... are we not debating the whole union / non-union thing here?
 
Merdock said:
interesting how this activity has been allowed to continue in this forum. Not long ago it would have been moved long before now... are we not debating the whole union / non-union thing here?
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Uh oh! Mods and Admin have been called out.

This type of talk has been allowed in the past when it stayed civil and company specific.

Grasping at straws?
 
nobodyinparticular said:
Well, well. Mr Tom Clark (VP for the eastern region) in case you don't know, paid XCO a visit today. Had talks with all of the drivers today. Said something about how important we are and he understands that the company wouldn't be where it is now if it wasn't for the drivers who have built this company and he appreciates all the hard work we do. Really wasn't paying much attention until someone asked if we would be seeing an increase. He said and I quote " There are NO plans to give an increase this year." Also told us that contrary to what our TM told us, we did not make the OP goal in the first quarter to qualify as one of the quarters to turn the 401k back on. So, we still need 2 consecutive quarters to get the 401k turned back on. It went all down hill from there. He did say that you never know, something could change and they would revisit the idea of an increase. Looks like another year of looking forward to nothing. Thanks Conway! How long are you willing to be stuck in the same rut with this company?
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something could change... like maybe fuel prices would go down? Maybe the economy would improve? Thanks Con-Way, it ain't happening and that's gotta be your fault too!
 
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