Great point Docker. But how could that be possible if yrc doesn't snap back to the wage and benefit package we vote for? It can only be a NMFA if we are all bound by the same rules and wage and benefit packages. It can not be a NMFA in just name it has to be in it's entirety. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
I could see the future contract being called the GOLD STANDARD FREIGHT AGREEMENT! Because they did not place UPSF into the NMFA was the first sign it was going BYE BYE! There was no reason to allow the wealthiest trucking company not to be a part of the NMFA. We have articles that makes the company accountable for using outside non union drivers to move our freight but yet they did not put this in the UPSF contract. And it was not by mistake. All they had to do was issue them a copy of the NMFA with everything we have except wages and benefits and that should have been their white paper agreement. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
We will be just fine. There are ways to assure we don't price ourselves out of a job and at the same time make sure we are amongst the industry leaders in both wages and benefits. It's not rocket science it just takes a little work and the BALLS to stand up for it. The big question is do we leave the yrc Teamsters behind or do we help assure their place in the pension funds? YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
Muler, how much longer can the present state of affairs continue before it starts to affect ABF? How could you
Well joe first off we the ABF Teamsters have been making more in wages and benefits than almost all freight companies for the last several decades. yrc paying less is just one more company below our compensation package so it does not really matter. Why weren't you on here years ago preaching the down fall of yrc because of all the companies paying less than them. So you see it is still the same just one more company paying less. And as for the pension there are many different ways we the ABF Teamsters could go. We could let ABF out if they agree to protect our pensions like UPS agreed to do for their Teamsters. We could agree to a 401K instead of ABF paying into a Teamster pension fund. So as you see we the ABF teamsters have several options. But any departure from the funds will surely have a back lash on the yrc Teamsters. Because yrc does not pay enough into the funds to keep them even remotely operational. Thus more penalties and cuts would have to be made. No joe we have many options and we the ABF Teamsters will make those decisions and nobody else. YOUR TEAMSTERS PENSION PAYING BROTHER ALWAYS!
OMG!!! I must be losing my mind, I actually have to agree with Joe about something. There is no way we (ABF) can keep paying into the health & welfare at 100% while the YRC companies are paying substandard wages and 25% retirement contributions. We need to take care of our own house first. As much as I hate to see YRC go the way it has we at ABF have no control of that situation and can only worry about what is going to happen with our futures. I do not want to see our defined pension go away, but I really don't see a future where YRC is able to carry their fair share. I hope I'm wrong. Only time will tell.
First off you have not been personally attacked on this forum. Only when you attack are you then attacked. Just stay on the topic and post links and you will find this forum a good place for information and a sounding board for what you believe in. You have in the past been combative and that has to change for you to stay in this forum. You can have your say but it will like all the rest of us be in a civil and respectful way. Like I said your slate is cleared in this forum. Have fun and be nice! YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
There are changes coming. But they will be the changes that we the ABF Teamster want not what the turncoat wants. After all we are the Teamsters that will be affected not him. There are ways to accomplish what we need to get done without shooting ourselves in the foot. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
Will ABF accept being the highest cost carrier in freight? They are not a UPS or FedEx profit wise. Either YRC makes whole on pension and pay or ABF backtracks. Unlikely either happens
I agree that changes are coming, but I'm afraid that some will be not what we want, but what we know we have to do. Sometimes medicine is painful in the short run to achieve a long term goal...
