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Some management are bad like that. Union shops have bad ones too.
and they forget the politics. If the steward doesn't like you or he owes the boss a favor.... you get the shaft.
Some management are bad like that. Union shops have bad ones too.
Not so much the way you must manage, but who you must manage. The environment changes. There is a much wider divide between "us" and "them".
Anyone ever had a supervisor who was related to an Exec? Ever had an incomptent co-worker that made your job more dificult than it needed to be, yet was tolerated because of his/her relationship with the TM?
Try dealing with dificult workers with an attitude of being "untouchable".
The employee who performs their job no differently than before he had union protection, oops representation, didn't need the union to begin with.
Years ago I worked with a shop steward who lost his CDL after a crash and subsequent medical issues. He knew the P&D business well and had the respect of 90+% of the drivers. He was worked dispatch for a stint. The growth and perspective he gained from this experience was fun to see. I imagine it was not much different than it would be for most any dispatcher or manager to walk a mile, so to speak, in a dock/drivers' shoes.
In my experience nothing. But I wasn't high up in the union company. The issue I have with having a steward present is why can't some people just admit they made a mistake and take the consequences? The Union protects the lazy and stupid. The do some good with the protection but alot of the time they protect the wrong people. Also would you rather be written up in private or take the union way and have it mailed to your house certified mail so your wife and kids know you got written up? In my opionion the union just widen the gap between management and hourly and over protects the ones who don't deserve it.
These people quickly forgot what they used to do and seamed to ride everyone a bit harder, and we quickly found out that this supervisor was now on a different page making his numbers. Yes your RIGHT the employee that preforms his job no different than before he had a union, did not need it until he had an accident or fell out of favor with management. Many of these people here that have never had a union job do not understand that doing so does not make them untouchable. It will not cure all their problems.
Lazy and stupid who hired these people?
Then take the steps to solve your problem all you need is a proper paper trail. Same as in any business to keep you out of court. Dot your I's and cross your T's.
mgmt is protecting the lazy ones now - they like to keep them around for some reason. Probably they want to keep their snitches.
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Yeah, so I want to get rid of the slug who just so happens to also have a hard time with punctuality. So I figure that's my easiest path to give him some unpaid time to reflect. Meanwhile one of my best workers shows up 1 minute late and I have to write him up. Doesn't create a very fun work environment when all the discretion is taken away from ones' ability to lead. Fortunately the good guy understands and knows he's not likely to be late again...however, it doesn't do anything to close that gap between us vs. them.
Ok, here is my suggestion. We're facing the worst economic times since Carter, maybe worse. Money is tight and so are profit margins. Why don't we just put the whole union thing on hold until profit margins increase and wait and see how the company treats us. If they don't treat us better as the economy comes back, then perhaps the pro-union crowd could resume the push. The union cannot secure any more money or benefits for anyone as long as there isn't enough profit from which to pull it from.
Their is no shortage of "snitches" at any company!
Anyone ever wonder why YRC has 32000 employees and Con-way has 20,500 and moves more freight? Maybe thats why they lose money? just wondering
That employee count at yrc includes the regionals. You are taking the employee count from the whole company but using the freight volume of one company. Break it into regions and conway can't even touch the volume that holland hauls in the midwest.Anyone ever wonder why YRC has 32000 employees and Con-way has 20,500 and moves more freight? Maybe thats why they lose money? just wondering
Actually I like it when the company delivers it certified mail. I like to refuse it and make the company pay the postage. If I'm written up for something stupid and without warrant (99% of the time), I put it on the fridge right next to the kids artwork.In my experience nothing. But I wasn't high up in the union company. The issue I have with having a steward present is why can't some people just admit they made a mistake and take the consequences? The Union protects the lazy and stupid. The do some good with the protection but alot of the time they protect the wrong people. Also would you rather be written up in private or take the union way and have it mailed to your house certified mail so your wife and kids know you got written up? In my opionion the union just widen the gap between management and hourly and over protects the ones who don't deserve it.
That employee count at yrc includes the regionals. You are taking the employee count from the whole company but using the freight volume of one company. Break it into regions and conway can't even touch the volume that holland hauls in the midwest.
I will tell you right here and now, Mr. White Shirt. That little attitude of yours is exactly why unions exist. Let me take a guess. You worked at CF. right? Why would most management "dislike" their jobs? Educate our future members. Would it be because their unbridled power would cease to exist? Would it be because they would no longer be able to bully, intimidate, provoke, terminate, discriminate, anyone they they so choose? Would it be because they would no longer be able to manage any way they see fit in order to make some regional director happy? Would it be because there are rules to follow, and reprecussions if not? Or would it be just simple ego, getting in the way of common sense? You know what I'M talking about. A business agent jumping on your dock in the middle of the night, and putting a supervisor in his place for disrespecting a member. And to quote you. "I have seen it and you won't like it". So that attitude cuts both ways. TE out....I can give my opinion. A union in my workplace affects my job more than you think. I have worked for a Union carrier and wish never to have to do it again. If this were to go through most Management would dislike their job and take it out on their employees. I've seen it and you won't like it.
Could it be that YRC uses less interline and outside contractors ....
The money question may point to much poorer supervision and poor management decisions. My understanding is YRC has a much lower labor cost than the rest at least for now .
I will tell you right here and now, Mr. White Shirt. That little attitude of yours is exactly why unions exist. Let me take a guess. You worked at CF. right? Why would most management "dislike" their jobs? Educate our future members. Would it be because their unbridled power would cease to exist? Would it be because they would no longer be able to bully, intimidate, provoke, terminate, discriminate, anyone they they so choose? Would it be because they would no longer be able to manage any way they see fit in order to make some regional director happy? Would it be because there are rules to follow, and reprecussions if not? Or would it be just simple ego, getting in the way of common sense? You know what I'M talking about. A business agent jumping on your dock in the middle of the night, and putting a supervisor in his place for disrespecting a member. And to quote you. "I have seen it and you won't like it". So that attitude cuts both ways. TE out....
A few years back they paid three quarters of a billion dollars for CFI truck load and decimated their road board. And then forced the remaining employees to pay for it with reductions. That's part of it. TE out....