TForce | Victory for all Overnite workers and Teamsters!
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Johnnybegood
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I'm not going anywhere thanx..You can also work for a union co tommorow if ya want and sit by the phone.....flstc2000 said:
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Thats funny we still need to vote or not vote......CFer said:This is HUGE news
This means UPS WILL NOT fight the organizing drive and is willing to sit down with the Teamsters and negotiate a contract.
This a major victory for all UPSF employees whether you realize it or not.
Congratulations everyone, You all deserve this
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johnny, please elaborate for us why the benefits of a contract bother you so much... i've been in the union for almost 20 years, and can't begin to explain of all the positive things it brings..
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if you have any seniority, you probably have a start time... if you work at a busy terminal, do you think they'll keep you home for no reason??? you must have been drinking leo's kool-aid
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I've explained way to many times to answer everyone who starts up new on this site, Read the previous posts...jeff_spicoli said:
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And you want people to pay attention to you.....Don't be so arrogant and just maybe you will gain credibility......We do not all know your life's story, so if we can't get your aggression, you will have to pardon us.....Johnnybegood said:I've explained way to many times to answer everyone who starts up new on this site, Read the previous posts...
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Also....check out the stock prices....Went up ....But union bad(LOLOLOLOLOLOL) ..... Stability with in the ranks and employees that get their butts worked off but don't do it for free....So customers don't have to be worried about a driver with an ATTITUDE just a tired one that is FULLY compensated.....And has a real VISION!!!!
Johnnybegood said:Thats funny we still need to vote or not vote......
Thats incorrect JBG. There will be NO VOTE.
If the union presents the company with 50% plus 1 card the company has agreed to recognize the union. Thats how a card check works.
Here's more information about card checks. UPS has already volunteered to accept a card check.
If you use this strategy, you must convince at least 50%-plus-one of you and your co-workers to sign union authorization cards (or a petition), and then convince your employer to voluntarily recognize your union as the legal representative for your bargaining unit. Ideally, you will want to convince more than 50%-plus-one to sign cards. 50%-plus-one means one more than half of the work-force. For example, in a workplace of 100 (excluding management), that means 51 workers. In a workplace of 99 (excluding management), that means 50 workers. In a workplace of two (excluding management), both workers must agree to recognition to achieve a majority. Unions have discovered that 60% - 70% pro-union support is an ideal majority under most circumstances no matter what recognition strategy you use.
A union authorization card is not a membership card. By signing a card, a worker is not agreeing to join a union, nor does it require them to vote "yes" should an NLRB or PERB sponsored election occur. When a worker signs an authorization card, they include their name, address, phone number (if they have one), e-mail address (if they have an account), the date, their job title, hours per week and per day of work, rate of pay, and their signature. That information is confidential. Only the union and the NLRB or PERB has access to that information. The employers and their agents do not have access to the authorization cards.
Your Organizing Committee and/or a representative from your union informs your employer that a sizable majority (at least 50%-plus-one, but ideally 60% or more) have signed union authorization cards. If successful, your employer will voluntarily agree to recognize your union as the legal bargaining agent for your bargaining unit.
* The positive aspect of this strategy is, that if you
GLAD TO BE_UPSF
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CFer said:
Is this a company-wide 50%+1...or terminal by terminal?
my super couldn't answer that when he read us the letter today
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Meeting at our terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hold on boys. We had our meeting today with the letter from Leo. The agrement only applyies to the first terminal who gets 51%.
At this time the agrement is null and void.
UPSF can and will start to have their anti-union meetings and go back to their same old BS in the past.
Again!!!!!!! The agrement is only good for the first terminal who gets 51%
After that there is no agrement!!!!!!!!!!
Hold on boys. We had our meeting today with the letter from Leo. The agrement only applyies to the first terminal who gets 51%.
At this time the agrement is null and void.
UPSF can and will start to have their anti-union meetings and go back to their same old BS in the past.
Again!!!!!!! The agrement is only good for the first terminal who gets 51%
After that there is no agrement!!!!!!!!!!
The plan as I understand it is for the International to target one terminal, system wide. They will then get the cards signed and turned in to UPS. Then they will sit down and negotiate a contract for that terminal. After they have an agreement they will then go to other terminals for more card checks. That way every terminal (except the first) will know what agreement they are signing on to. My guess would be that this process would be more organized and less volatile for the company. Also keep in mind that UPS at the same time agreed to open up early negotiations for the small package side. I can't imagine that they would want a major fight with freight, at the same time they are negotiating the contract for package.
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Flattop said:
Well the letter we were introduced to said quite the opposite, our tm was reading it to us and it said that those terminals already in bargaining would not be included in this plan, but this is a plan to allow open talks, or discussions in between the teamster and upsf workers freely., To avoid conflict as opposed to the last strike.
My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".
This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
I, along with everyone else that wanted to read it personally, understand it the way that Clutchcargo has said.
The agreement is for the first terminal only and UPS Freight must be notified in advance to which terminal they wish to excersice this right. After this the agreement is null and void.
The agreement is labled the Fair Play agreement. This is suppose to insure that both sides refrain from coercion, threats, etc. etc.
I personally believe it to be an act of good faith from both party's to persuade the employees that both have changed their ways. Time will tell I suppose.
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The agreement is for the first terminal only and UPS Freight must be notified in advance to which terminal they wish to excersice this right. After this the agreement is null and void.
The agreement is labled the Fair Play agreement. This is suppose to insure that both sides refrain from coercion, threats, etc. etc.
I personally believe it to be an act of good faith from both party's to persuade the employees that both have changed their ways. Time will tell I suppose.
Equalizer