I'm not sure that you've made the case that an extension is unacceptable. I don't think anyone is under the delusion that the company could survive under a full snap back to previous contributions and wages.
The only thing that is unacceptable is advocating that people decide how to vote before reading the proposal. Maybe they can just wait to read your inevitable executive summary?
So...5 more years of wasting your money will be fine with you?
I don't have to read anything to know WE do not get anything back..that's why they call it CONCESSIONS.....KK..
Adorable - I like this post within a post thing. Just like voters in the US we each pick an issue to beat to death. Yours is the responsible use of funds that you consider yours. Once again, I don't consider it my money until it is deposited into an account that I own.
I'm fundamentally interested in the survival of good paying high benefit jobs that allow Teamsters to support their families and provide better opportunities to their kids. If I have to give a little back or enable some incompetent management decisions to make sure those opportunities survive - I will. But I'll damn sure read the proposal first.
Besides, I've lived through 60 years of the government wasting my money but it hasn't made me think "enough is enough" yet! I know the grass may seem greener on the other side when times are tough, but I wouldn't be so quick to make financial demands that the company can't shoulder.
I don't believe that KK was telling anybody how to vote, I believe that he was expressing his thoughts about the upcoming second proposal.
I have not always agreed with all that KK has posted. I believe that if you are a responsible adult, you will vote how you want to and not based on the preachings or written text of someone else.
Like you, I am fundamentally interested in the survival of this company also, but I am not willing to give back more money, so incompetent management can make even more bad decisions to the survival of this company. That has been the problem, incompetent management decisions.
The sacrafice that all the men and women of this company have made, was made with the idea that there would be decisions made to help move the company forward. In recent post I stated that in meetings we have had during the push to get the extension, that I asked what was the business plan to avoid the short comings of the past five years. I was told they were paying down the debt, great, that's a action, not a plan. I don't believe there has been a solid business plan or business model that they are using to help with the ever growing problems that they face.
The money that we give each week, I consider an investment into the growth of the company, and right now the investment is not working well, (just like Social Security). I am not asking for a full snap back, we know that is not possible. The only thing I ask is show me something that will convience me that the money is being used for the betterment of the company and the employees'.
We have all suffered because of poor management decisions, decisions that were made with little of no imput of the employees'. Isn't it time that we say "Enough of the poor decisions, start making decisions for the good of all the people who have given and sacrficied so much for this company"